On Tue, Oct 06, 2015 at 04:26:49PM +0200, Ondřej Surý wrote: > > On Tue, Sep 08, 2015 at 08:29:18PM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 05:45:30PM +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > > > > djbdns is RC-buggy for many years now and was out of testing since 2009. > > > > Should we remove it from unstable? > > > > No, I don't think so. > > Any solid arguments supporting your opinion? > > djbdns is RC buggy, upstream orphaned, outdated, has to be heavily > patched, doesn't support recent DNS standards and it still even carries > old J-ROOT IP address that was decommissioned a ***13*** years ago.
dnscache component only is RC-buggy. The solution has been proposed by Robert Edmonds (remove only buggy component /usr/bin/dnscache). It is not upstream orphaned. It is just stable piece of software which does not change often, as it was engineered on KISS principle, so it does not *need* to be changed. That is great engineering feat, and I'd love if way more software would be like that instead of having everincreasing featurecreep. I do not know why you think it *has* to be heavily patched. It works for me without patching just fine, for example. The recent DNS standards (DNSSEC, I assume) it doesn't support is by design, as it is deemed broken by upstream author (see http://dnscurve.org/ for more details, for example) and the whole point of KISS principle is to keep it simple and use modular design for extra bloat if wanted (for example, even DJB's dnscurve is to be implemented as separate independent software part, and not patching tinydns with its functionality) J-ROOT should be trivial to patch, care to file a bug for that? > I myself started my DNS journey with djbdns years ago, and I always > loved the code-style. It's very well written, but the world has moved > on, and it's time to *let it go*. Just let it go and let it rest in > peace, Gerrit. Ondřej, I see that you advertise competing DNS product; but really, there are some people more happy with tinydns than with any other peace of DNS software out there. I'm not a DD, but I am willing to do the work if it will be accepted. For that, I propose to do the following: - fix J-ROOT - split djbdns source package into: - djbdns-dnscache (dnscache only), - djbdns-auth (authorative DNS servers, like tinydns, axfrdns, walldns), - djbdns-tools (all the command line tools) Are there other issues that need fixing in order for most of djbdns package (everything except dnscache) friends not be RC-buggy? only djbdns-dnscache can remain RC-buggy then (until patched by someone). Would that work for everyone? -- Opinions above are GNU-copylefted.
