Philippe Cerfon:
> On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 7:35 AM, Christian PERRIER <bubu...@debian.org> wrote:
>> Discussing infrastructure changes like what you're proposing (which I
>> have no advice about) should usually be done through our mailing
>> lists,
> Which one would be the appropriate list?
> 
> I thought general would fit, as it likely affects multiple packages
> and infrastructure systems form Debian.
> Anyway, I don't mind to forward this to some list as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> Philippe.
> 

Your second item has been brought up before with different
focus/rationale/purpose.  At least I remember there being an interest in
splitting "non-free" into "non-free/firmware" vs. various other non-free
sub components.

Mind you, its primary goal was not to address "source vs. no-source",
but it is the closest related idea I could think of.  Sadly, I don't
have a reference ready to backup my memory.


On your first item, I would have to agree with Christian.  It is not
actionable and much less by Debian.  At best we could stop packaging
such software or disabling such features, but both have their disadvantages:

 * Even if we stop shipping them, people will still download them.
   Except your average user will probably be worse off because most of
   them do not verify their downloads.
 * If we disable the functionality, we would "cripple" the software to
   many people.  If this annoys people, we will end up in a situation
   where people will advise /against/ using the Debian package because
   it is "crippled", which leads to the situation above.  Or we could
   get badly unpopular with upstream (see the "Debian vs. Ruby" issue
   from a couple of years ago).


Thanks,
~Niels

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