On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 05:28:00AM -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> 
> On 24 June 2016 at 10:26, Julian Gilbey wrote:
> | Package: ess
> | Version: 16.04-2
> | Severity: normal
> | 
> | Hello Dirk,
> | 
> | For some reason, ess has started taking a massive time to load at
> | emacs startup time: on my old machine, it is taking about two minutes.
> | (On my newer machine, the relative time differences are similar:
> 
> Well I cannot confirm that as my home and work machines all behave well with
> it.  Can you triage your .emacs down?

Hello Dirk,

I've tried it again (this time on my faster machine) with .emacs
skipped (using -q).  I do have quite a few packages installed, but
they don't seem to be causing the difficulty.  I can see the
initialisation just sitting at the line when it's loading 50ess, and I
have no idea why :-(

Without ess installed:

erdos:~ $ time emacs -batch -q -eval '(nil)'
Loading 00debian-vars...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/20apel.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50a2ps.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50asymptote.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50auctex.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/preview-latex.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50autoconf.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50devscripts-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...
Loading debian-ispell...
Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-default.el (source)...
Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dpkg-dev-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50ecb.el (source)...
ECB 2.40 uses CEDET 2.0 (contains semantic 2.2, eieio 1.4, speedbar <unknown 
version>).
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-goodies-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-intl-fonts.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50epix.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50festival.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50flim.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gtk-doc-tools.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gtypist.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50haskell-mode.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode-autoloads.el 
(source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50lbdb.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50lilypond-data.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50mmm-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50noweb.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50org-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50php-elisp.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50proofgeneral.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/proofgeneral/generic/proof-site.elc...
Loading /etc/emacs24/site-start.d/50psgml-init.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50python-docutils.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50texlive-lang-english.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50w3m-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50yaml-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51debian-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51semi.el (source)...
Symbol's function definition is void: nil

real     0m0.682s
user     0m0.600s
sys      0m0.076s

With ess installed:

erdos:~ $ time emacs -batch -q -eval '(nil)'
Loading 00debian-vars...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/20apel.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50a2ps.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50asymptote.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50auctex.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/auctex.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/preview-latex.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50autoconf.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50devscripts-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dictionaries-common.el (source)...
Loading debian-ispell...
Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-default.el (source)...
Loading /var/cache/dictionaries-common/emacsen-ispell-dicts.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50dpkg-dev-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50ecb.el (source)...
ECB 2.40 uses CEDET 2.0 (contains semantic 2.2, eieio 1.4, speedbar <unknown 
version>).
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-goodies-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50emacs-intl-fonts.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50epix.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50ess.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50festival.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50flim.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gtk-doc-tools.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50gtypist.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50haskell-mode.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/haskell-mode/haskell-mode-autoloads.el 
(source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50lbdb.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50lilypond-data.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50mmm-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50noweb.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50org-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50php-elisp.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50proofgeneral.el (source)...
Loading /usr/share/emacs24/site-lisp/proofgeneral/generic/proof-site.elc...
Loading /etc/emacs24/site-start.d/50psgml-init.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50python-docutils.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50texlive-lang-english.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50w3m-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/50yaml-mode.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51debian-el.el (source)...
Loading /etc/emacs/site-start.d/51semi.el (source)...
Symbol's function definition is void: nil

real     0m6.675s
user     0m0.904s
sys      0m0.120s

So ess is taking something like 90% of the initialisation time,
bizarrely.

Best wishes,

   Julian

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