On 09/02/2016 11:47 AM, Raphaël Halimi wrote: > And how, exactly, are *we* supposed to know that ? Are we expected to > read all bug reports about *every* MATE component, on Debian's BTS and > upstream's, before reporting a bug against any of those components ?
Yes, this is *exactly* what you are supposed to do before filing a bug
report, especially when using *unstable*. If that is too much for you,
please refrain from using *unstable* which is not targeted at regular
end users but primarily developers, in particular people who develop
Debian. You can search the bug tracker with Google, after all. So I
don't really think asking for some research before filing a new bug
report is too much asked for, really. I do that all the time.
People like you constantly ignore the fact that at the other end of the
bug tracker you will find people which are receiving all these bug
report mails and I can tell you that if you get more than half a dozen
bug reports describing the same problem over and over again you will
loose your patience and tamper as well.
> Besides, isn't the additional information on all those little symptoms,
> supposed to help you pinpoint the bug and fix it ?
No, not really. The pinpointing is done *upstream*. As I have explained many
many times, this is the Debian bug tracker which tracks Debian-specific
bugs. The bug you are seeing is an upstream bug and therefore affects
all distributions and therefore belongs to the upstream bug tracker where
it will reach the people who can fix the actual code. Reporting your
bug upstream will dramatically increase the bug fixing process and also
mean less burden and stress for downstream. It also makes sure all
distributions are receiving the fix as quickly as possible.
> You know, yesterday night when I was hit by this bug, I was so fed up
> with those problems that I contemplated just ditching MATE altogether in
> favor of another desktop, but I decided to calm down and to report the
> bug. This is the last straw: rest assured that you won't receive any
> more bug reports emanating from me regarding MATE.
Thank you. My advise would also be to use another distribution altogether,
I advise using something other than a development release, then you won't
be bothered anymore by things being broken during *development*. I would also
suggest learning the difference between upstream and distribution
downstream and understanding when to report bugs upstream and when to
report them downstream.
PS: The bug you are seeing is because of a change in GTK3, not MATE,
so you're actually also yelling at the wrong people when you complain
about things being broken this time.
Thanks,
Adrian
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