On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 01:18:52PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote: > As you describe, the default network is an extra layer of NAT. It > works, but not everybody wants that.
So those who don't want it can fix their bloody configuration. Are you honestly suggesting that we should create unnecessary fluff for all our users just because NAT doesn't work for a small minority of our users? It's always possible to create a bridge manually, there's no need to do that from the installer; and NAT works out of the box (virt-manager will even suggest you enable the default network if you try to use it and it hasn't been enabled yet). -- < ron> I mean, the main *practical* problem with C++, is there's like a dozen people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules, and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too. -- #debian-devel, OFTC, 2016-02-12