James, did you intend to send this just to me? To be on safe side, I reply to you only, but I really think this should also go to the bug report.
James McCoy - 18.07.17, 20:21: > On Sat, Jul 08, 2017 at 11:36:07PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > James McCoy - 05.07.17, 21:09: […] > > My order wasn´t complete. I think it should be: > > > > 1. Global vim configuration > > 2. /etc/vim/vimrc.local > > 3. $HOME/.vimrc > > 4. defaults.vim > > > > so that defaults.vim can only ever set any setting that has *not* been set > > by any of the other configuration files. > > Then you would actually want defaults.vim to be first, so that anything > else set overrides it. You can do exactly that by putting this in your > /etc/vim/vimrc.local: > > " Explicitly source defaults.vim so you can override its settings > source $VIMRUNTIME/defaults.vim > " Prevent it from being loaded again later if the user doesn't have > " a vimrc > let skip_defaults_vim = 1 And all that just to restore some sanity to the VIM configuration… well… > > It is completely unintuitive that defaults.vim overwrites settings in > > vimrc.local by default. If I write "set mouse=" in there, I mean it. I > > really dislike software that pretends it knows better than me unless I > > tell that software to stop that behavior. > > > > Never *ever* overwrite user/admin made settings. > > Yes, that was another part that Bram just punted on when he was deciding > how defaults.vim would work. I may look at a vim fork that doesn´t adopt this nonsense. > > > defaults.vim is intentionally loaded _after_ $HOME/.vimrc so that Vim > > > can choose not to load it when $HOME/.vimrc exists. The situation > > > you're running into is that you don't have $HOME/.vimrc and therefore > > > are having the system-wide values adjusted by defaults.vim. > > > > Alternatively vim should not load defaults.vim if vimrc.local exists I > > think. > /etc/vim/vimrc is the only thing Vim knows about. It just happens to > have a snippet at the end which sources /etc/vim/vimrc.local. > > If anything, I'll add a commented out version of the code I posted > above to /etc/vim/vimrc. I thought this sort of stuff would be easily > figured out for people that wanted to customize the behavior, but > apparently I was wrong. This is… I already use "let skip_defaults_vim = 1". I found this before already, and I think apt-listchanges showed me your update to NEWS.Debian. But the issue with this is: Now by default the VIM configuration is *broken* in several ways which I described on *every* newly installed *or* upgraded Debian system. Which needs adapting the configuration every newly installed system. For *what* benefit? Well, I bet I´d need to file an issue with upstream about that. Thanks, -- Martin
