On 2017-09-04 00:13, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Sep 03, 2017 at 11:54:03PM +0200, Aurelien Jarno wrote: > > On 2017-09-03 18:49, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > Package: src:glibc > > > Version: 2.24-17 > > > Severity: wishlist > > > Tags: patch > > > > > > Hi! > > > Here's a simple patch set to change the default of setlocale(…, "") to > > > C.UTF-8. This is a drastically smaller change than altering the meaning > > > of > > > "C" to mean "C.UTF-8" that upstream is mulling over -- it affects only > > > programs that already have locale support, when the user fails to set any. > > > > Even is the change is small, that might still change the behavior of > > some programs, so I am not sure we want to diverge from upstream and > > other distributions here. > > > > One example comes to my mind: initializing a postgresql database > > cluster. When not using the --locale option this would cause the > > database to use a non C locale, which has significant performance > > impact. > > In this case, this will change anyway when (if?) upstream goes forward with > their version -- which sounds as if postgresql wants an explicit LC_ALL=C. > Doesn't pg_createcluster inherit locale settings from the user who's > invoking it (thus usually en_US.UTF-8 or whatever)? Thus, in the vast
Or the root account when install postgresql using apt-get. > majority of uses, there's no change, merely a certain way to force the C > locate (unset LC_ALL LANG LC_CTYPE LC_...) won't work anymore. That's correct. My point there is that the usual unset command will work on all distributions except Debian. Also that's just an example of a behavior change, I am sure there are many more. > As for diverging from upstream, lemme ask the guy behind the upstream > proposal wiki page what's the inclusion status. You probably have a wee bit > better idea than me about upstream's workings, though. As I said in my first, it's about diverging from upstream *and* from other distributions. If a few other distributions use your patch as the default, I am fine with that. Aurelien -- Aurelien Jarno GPG: 4096R/1DDD8C9B aurel...@aurel32.net http://www.aurel32.net