On Tue, Oct 31, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Thomas Goirand <z...@debian.org> wrote:

> On 10/31/2017 01:58 AM, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> > python-monasca-statsd is currently packaged in Ubuntu as source:
> monasca-statsd
> >
> > The biggest difference is that the Ubuntu package ships a
> > documentation package and the Debian package also ships the Python 3
> > module.
> >
> > https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/monasca-statsd
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Jeremy Bicha
>

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks and feel free to report bugs against LP for OpenStack-related
packages as well.


>
> Hi,
>
> Thanks Jeremy, that's a good catch, and I'm happy to know. A few
> comments here though.


> Having a doc package here is silly, if you consider that the generated
> doc is nearly empty. The only thing it will contain is the index.rst
> that contains a long description of the package, which is also available
> in debian/control, plus where to find upstream source, also described in
> debian/control (homepage field), and that's about it.
>
> The Python 3 module is important to me, so I wont remove it, maybe
> Canonical should catch up on it.
>

Will do.


>
> Now, more in general. I don't even understand why it wasn't uploaded to
> Debian by the Ubuntu team. Ubuntu people have always claimed they wanted
> to collaborate with Debian people for the OpenStack stuff, yet when
> there's nobody outside of Canonical to do the work, no upload happens in
> Debian, it goes only to Ubuntu. So I'm tempted to say it's you guys
> fault here... Time to reboot the Ubuntu workflow for OpenStack? Maybe
> Corey should attempt to become a DD and do the work in Debian? If
> nothing happens to go that direction, I'm not sure I want to do any
> effort either. I've done enough in the past and got frustrated enough.
>

We've gone above and beyond to collaborate. Prior to this past year we
aligned with Debian as much as possible on OpenStack dependencies. In fact
I spent a significant amount of time a few cycles back dropping any delta
from Ubuntu deps to align with Debian. Unfortunately we can't align on the
core packages until we can come to an agreement there. For example, Debian
packages don't use pristine-tar and they use debconf prompts to users for
configuration - whereas we use pristine-tar and don't prompt users in
Ubuntu.  This past year, and possibly part of the year before, Debian
development on OpenStack ceased for a long stretch of time until just
recently.  That forced us to completely change our workflow to an Ubuntu
focus. If we shared all packages that could've been a different story.

Regards,
Corey


> Cheers,
>
> Thomas Goirand (zigo)
>

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