On 04/12/17 06:18, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Hi,
On Fr 01 Dez 2017 01:02:25 CET, sirgazil wrote:
On 30/11/17 04:38, Mike Gabriel wrote:
Hi,
On Mi 29 Nov 2017 16:59:27 CET, sirgazil wrote:
Package: mate-desktop
Version: 1.16.2-2
I'm using Debian Linux zenme 4.9.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 4.9.51-1
(2017-09-28) i686 GNU/Linux.
When a blind person starts the computer, they don't have any way of
knowing whether the login screen has loaded or not. The system does
not provide any aural cues for blind users, so they have to call
sighted people to help them log in.
Thanks for your feedback on accessibility.
Please note that the MATE desktop does not come with a login manager
itself. It uses a "3rd party product" for session login management.
The default display manager in use for MATE desktop installations is
LightDM.
Please also note that I have recently uploaded the Arctica Greeter, a
fork from Ubuntu's Unity Greeter. Arctica Greeter, like Unity
Greeter, sends a little drum roll to the speaker, so there is indeed
an accoustic signal that the greeter has loaded and the computer is
ready for login.
The greeter has Orca support built-in, so you can enable it (or have
it enabled by default as a system-wide setting that survives reboot
of the computer). Orca then will read to you the different text
fragments you find on the login screen.
I will ping you via this bug, once the Arctica Greeter has landed in
Debian testing.
Please note that such changes as requested / proposed cannot be made
in a Debian stable release, so we need to look forward regarding this
and improve ourselves for Debian 10 (aka buster).
Thanks for your input!
Mike
Thank you for the information, Mike.
I'd like to add that working around this problem by activating Orca
screen reader in the LightDM GTK+ Greeter Settings is not possible
because the greeter hangs when doing so (see
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=883215).
So it seems Debian 9 with Mate is currently not accessible at all to
blind users?
Please note that LightDM GTK+ Greeter is _not_ Arctica Greeter.
Yes, I know that. I was referring to the default greeter that is used in
Debian when you select the Mate desktop in the installation process.
If you are not scared of third party APT repositories, you can get a
build of Arctica Greeter here:
```
deb http://packages.arctica-greeter.org/debian stretch main
```
The GnuPG Archive Key can be obtained this way:
```
wget -qO - http://packages.arctica-project.org/archive.key | sudo
apt-key add -
```
Looking forward for your feedback! Orca can be enable in the greeter
with ALT + SUPER + S.
Well, in this particular case, only Debian stable repositories are allowed.
I'd like to try this workaround on my machine, though, but trying to add
the GPG Archive Key failed:
# apt-key add archive.key
gpg: keydb_get_keyblock failed: Value not found
