On 9 March 2018 at 16:26, Yaroslav Halchenko <y...@debian.org> wrote:
> THANKS!  but...
>
> On Fri, 09 Mar 2018, Arturo Borrero Gonzalez wrote:
>
>> Also, no need to `Recommends: iptables`, since is installed by default in 
>> every
>> Debian system.
>
> indeed it is (triple checked with debootstrap)  but it could also as
> easily be uninstalled.  And that is what I guess is done by docker and
> may be other environments removing it (so docker images come without
> iptables preinstalled since it is of no sense for them).  So I still
> wonder if we should retain iptables in Recommends since it doesn't hurt.
>
> Also, until nftables is the strongly encouraged default we should
> not place it into Recommends but keep it in Suggests to not install it
> when people who already have the "default" iptables, apt-get install
> fail2ban (and thus its recommends)
>
> what do you think?

then perhaps we could Recommends: nftables | iptables

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