On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 11:15:58PM +0100, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote:
> Package: autodep8
> Severity: wishlist
> 
> (Moving to a new bug: note that I have not decided whether I agree with this
> proposal.)
> 
> On 31/07/18 14:59, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > Hi Rebecca,
> > 
> > On 30-07-18 08:57, Rebecca N. Palmer wrote:
> > > On 29/07/18 14:58, Paul Gevers wrote:
> > > > [...]
> > > > A similar idea has come to my mind
> > > > about allow-stderr, so I think this is worth discussing.
> > > 
> > > Do you mean setting allow-stderr by default in autodep8-generated tests?
> > 
> > That is indeed what I wanted to discuss.
> > 
> > >   There are packages that would pass only with that (e.g. theano prints a
> > > warning to stderr if one of its Recommends is not installed), but I
> > > don't know how many.
> 
> When the debci autodep8 whitelist was being set up, 241 of 1059 Python
> packages were found to fail: 
> https://salsa.debian.org/ci-team/debian-ci-config/commit/c0c8c22d0964d85155b5555367588f0815db6e98
> 
> That commit log doesn't say how many of these were due to stderr, but those
> 241 might be a good place to look for examples.
> 
> > 
> > Indeed, but right now they shouldn't be using autodep8 then. And I
> > wonder if there are regression in this area if we want to block on that.
> > I.e. deprecation warnings in Python are printed on stderr.
> 
> DeprecationWarning isn't printed at all by default - does autodep8 enable it
> (I don't see it doing so, but could be wrong), or were these some other
> warning category, or real debian/tests/control files (e.g. referring to
> unittest-based upstream test suites, which do enable it)?
> 
> If we do set allow-stderr, we might also want to enable DeprecationWarning
> to have it visible in the test log (Python upstream recommend this for test
> runners:
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0565/ ), but that might not do much good
> if 'pass' logs mostly go unread.

FWIW, most of the supported package types do already set allow-stderr.
From a quick look, of 4 of 9 explictly set allow-stderr, and 2 append
`2>/dev/null` to the Test-Command.

The python support in autodep8 is very much in need of improvement, and
we would really benefit from someone who wants to work on it.

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