Quack,
On 2018-08-23 15:39, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
You made the decision. Do you also own it? "has been … made" to me does
not sound like you do.
*I* did make this decision. I was asked to step up in the debian-private
debate and to decide, that's what I did. Noone from any major teams
(release, ftpmasters… or even DPL) did voiced their opinion as a
representative of such team, no one challenged I was not a legitimate
person to rule this out, so to me this is ruled and past. I may revisit
this decision in the future though.
Calling those who voted for changing or removing the package names
("knights"), personally attacking them by this, is not helpful here.
And
it does not show respect for the point of view of these people.
"knight" is not an insult, merely a comparison. Have all my words need
to be scrutinized for dual meanings?
Some persons approached me on the thread or privately like they were a
representant of women. Without a formal election, I consider these
voices illigitimate.
The thread you referenced clearly shows that it is more than just Ian´s
personal opinion. I agree with him about either changing the package or
removing it. And others did too. Among them also a woman who dared to
speak out.
This is still far from an overwhelming majority of Debian contributors,
also considering a lot of people do not want to be involved in such
heated and ugly threads at all.
Obviously it is important here to "agree to disagree" in order to move
forward. What I see instead is a lot of resistance of each others point
of view, but not only on Ian´s side, also on yours… and I won´t exclude
me, as I did not fully let go and release on the issue. So also on my
side. I aimed at respecting your point of view instead of attacking you
personally. I hope I have been successful. There is a lot unresolved
about this topic.
I have listened, I had to endure all the horrible comparisons and other
horrors of this thread, the fact that I'm most probably a very bad
person for holding up this position and other insinuations, and I have
made my mind. I cannot prove I listened to other's opinions, sorry.
You've been very polite. I agree about the unresolved issues, but even
my small attempt to add something to the discussion failed miserably, so
I'm not very optimistic.
I maintain two packages and still have my sponsor upload them for me. I
think I am not in a position to challenge your decision within the
usual
processes in Debian. So I leave it at that.
I have never looked down on non-DDs. Any contributor or user is welcome
to voice his opinion.
\_o<
--
Marc Dequènes
