On Mon 22 Oct 2018 at 08:54:52 +0200, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Control: reopen -1 > Control: reassign -1 cups-daemon 2.2.8-5 > Control: retitle -1 cups-daemon: Please consider making cups-browsed a > Suggests > Control: affects -1 +cups-browsed > > Le dimanche, 21 octobre 2018, 21.21:13 h CEST Debian BTS a écrit : > > On Mon 10 Sep 2018 at 15:16:44 +0100, Brian Potkin wrote: > > > Package: cups-browsed > > > Version: 1.21.2-1 > > > Severity: wishlist > > > > > > > > > With the introduction of cups 1.6.x the situation in respect to printing > > > to remote print queues and printers would have been dire without the > > > creation of cups-browsed. However, cups 2.2.4 and later has the ability > > > (CUPS Issue #4993) to enumerate queues and printers in print dialogs and > > > to auto-create a temporary print queue. This is used by applications > > > having the Qt dialog and printing from the command line, although the > > > GTK dialog still does its own thing. > > > > > > cups-browsed is installed by default because cups-daemon (quite rightly) > > > recommends it. With the changed situation in CUPS and applications it > > > would appear that cups-browsed has less relevance with regard to printer > > > and print queue discovery and management. The Recommends field lists > > > packages that would be found with the cups package because there is a > > > strong dependency between it and cups-browsed. cups-browsed would still > > > enhance cups if changed to a Suggests:. > > > > > > The installation of cups-browsed almost as a matter of course on many > > > buster systems also masks bugs in CUPS and applications, as it will take > > > over the management of queues/printers. A small example is CUPS Issue > > > #5045. Another example is with okular. For me, it will not print to a > > > temporary queue; with a local cups-browsed queue it will. This would > > > probably pass unnoticed as things stand now. > > > > The resounding silence is an indication of the quality of this report. > > It was probably a naff idea. Closing. > > I disagree. Although I haven't interacted on the bug, your report sparkled > some thoughts, and I had its proper handling on my "to spend some energy on > later" list. In the meantime, cups-filters started to FTBFS in unstable; a > fix was urgent and I spent the minimal amount of energy to solve that issue. > > But demoting the cups-daemon ⇒ cups-browsed relationship from a Recommends to > a Suggests is something we should consider, and your argumentation makes sense > to me. > > @Till: any opinion?
I'll argue against myself by describing how I see the GUI apps handling printing. Apologies in advance for misinformation or misinterpretation in the testing process. 1. cups-browsed is needed by the GTK print dialog for printing to IPP printers (#916267). 2. At present, Qt based apps do not print to remote print queues and IPP printers without cups-browsed (#911702). 3. The native print dialog of the chromium browser enumerates queues (with the help of CUPS) but will not print to them. 4. Only LibreOffice appears to operate in a sane way by promoting printing to any remote queue or IPP printer without cups-browsed. Sending CUPS semi-naked into the world of buster doesn't look like a good idea. Regards, Brian.