On Wed, Jul 31, 2019 at 09:04:24AM +1200, Olly Betts wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 01:57:08PM -0400, Scott Talbert wrote:
> > I'll look into adding the blocking indications to the tracking bug, but
> > admittedly, I'm not very good with the BTS (and documentation isn't the
> > best).
> 
> I've just run a "bts" command to mark all the open "please rebuild" bugs
> as blocking the transition bug.
> 
> > On Tue, 30 Jul 2019, Tobias Frost wrote:
> > > FTR, darkradiant is also affected by #900678.
> > 
> > I'm not sure that we can afford to wait for a fix for #900678.  There is no
> > movement upstream on that and it's more than just a fix - rather wxGLCanvas
> > needs to be ported to something like EGL instead of GLX.  I can send you a
> > patch that adds the workaround to use X for you to consider.

That would be very welcome.

> Although forcing X under GTK3 is a workaround, it's really no worse than
> sticking with GTK2 - the GTK2 build only works because GTK2 doesn't
> support Wayland directly at all, and so there use of X is implicitly
> forced.

Yes, I somewhat agree.

However, it is a bad user experience when programs do segfault on
wayland especially as this is now the default in Debian.
So I fear it is not ready yet for prime time in Debian, but as we are
early in the release cycle of bullseye that might change later, I guess.
(For darkradiant, I like to wait a bit more to see how things evolve;
see below for a second reason)

A quick Thought: Would there be a possiblity to have at least an message
printed out on wayland before crashing emitted from wxwidgets? like a
warning "you are using GLCanvas under wayland, this app will crash!"

The "fixes" in #900768:33 are merely workarounds IMHO. As it seems to
be effort to make it properly, I think it is not really good to make
dozens of packages carry around the workarounds as they will likely
survive a proper fix later (as nobody tends to track such things later)

BTW The other issue I mentioned is not related to wayland but to having
a QHD+ display… I need to pinpoint that further and will then file a bug
accordingly, however I'm not sure against which package.

This is a regression which makes darkradiant* unusable, so I will need to
postpone a fix for this bug, unfortunatly.

* one have to expect that someone using darkradiant using a QHD+ or 4K
display, because of the nature of darkadiant.

--
tobi

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