On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 10:46:24PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote:

> > Would it make sense to ship systemd-timesyncd disabled by default in
> > buster and add a README to enable it only if the user really decides
> > to enable it? (Maybe also documenting this in the release notes).
> 
> I think this would break more setups then it fixes.
> The default behaviour of systemd-timesyncd has been since two releases
> to be enabled by default. We can't easily change that.
> 
> > That would be the most simple solution for stable that I can think,
> > as it would reduce the number of packages to change to just one.
> 
> Unfortunately I think that disabling systemd-timesyncd by default is one
> of the most intrusive changes. After all, systemd is installed by
> default (and thus systemd-timesyncd enabled by default). I fear this is
> a no-go.

Ok, in such case, the only other solution which comes to mind is what you
proposed in the message I was replying to, i.e. this:

> I guess at this point it is best to ask chrony, ntp, openntpd, ntpsec
> and virtualbox [1] to drop the Conflicts= line again.

If I'm not mistaken, this is how it was done in stretch, so the fix
would be as "conservative" as it can be.

I would not worry about the number of packages that need to be changed
being "high". If you as systemd maintainer believe that this is the best
solution for buster, I would hope that the other maintainers agree.

Thanks.

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