On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 09:24:50AM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le jeudi 20 avril 2006 à 19:41 -0400, Steve Pomeroy a écrit :
> > Package: fontconfig
> > Version: 2.3.2-5.1
> > Followup-For: Bug #299697
> > 
> > 
> > fontconfig just updated my /etc/fonts/font.conf file, reminding
> > me that this bug is still unresolved.
> > 
> > Does anyone have any further info on this issue? 
> 
> There are lots of things in this bug report, so I'd like to make them
> clear.
> 
> Most contributors to this thread noticed that the URW fonts had replaced
> the Bitstream fonts in Firefox/epiphany. This is caused by the Mozilla
> suite replacing the "sans-serif" and "serif" aliases by "Helvetica" and
> "Times". We will not include a broken patch from Ubuntu for fontconfig
> when the bug is in Mozilla; it has been fixed in xulrunner 1.8.0.1-3. I
> don't know whether it has been fixed in firefox as well, but it is only
> a matter of porting the same patch.

Perhaps I'm mistaken, but the problem wasn't the default font for
Firefox, etc. but that websites would specify "Helvetica" and "Times" in
their CSS, which would then use the Nimbus fonts. That's certainly the
case for myself, anyhow. (My Firefox default has always been the 
generic 'sans', etc.)

Keith: I think your suggestions are much more sane than the current
default. I've been simply putting a ban on the Nimbus family, but I
imagine others are not so keen on that ;-)

Perhaps this is really a bug report for the Nimbus fonts themselves? I
mean, I can understand why a metric and shape compatible font is such
a good thing, but why does it have to render poorly in certain contexts?
In fact, what contexts *do* the render well?

> I'd like to know whether the original bug report (ugly fonts at small
> sizes) is the same. You can check the latest epiphany package, in which
> I'm sure the DejaVu fonts are correctly used by default. You can also
> try with removing the gsfonts-x11 package.

DejaVu has been recently rendering poorly as well, so I don't think that
helps much. But that's for another bug report ;-)

> Regards,
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