On Sun, 26 Sep 2021 13:49:36 -0400
John Brooks <j...@fastquake.com> wrote:

> [...]
> Michael,
> 
> I think it is important that you clarify or modify your stance given 
> that upon further inspection by others here, there are no serious 
> outstanding functional or security issues with the program. Even 
> self-asserted justification (i.e. "I just don't want to maintain it 
> anymore, so find someone else") is acceptable; that is your right as a 
> volunteer. But it would have been prudent to either defend your initial 
> assessment of the program as no longer suitable for inclusion, or 
> acknowledge that you may have been incorrect. Otherwise the issue is 
> just stuck in limbo.
> 
> Additionally, in response to this very bug, a new upstream release has 
> now been issued. In light of this, do you plan to upload the new version 
> and continue to fill the role of maintainer for the rsnapshot Debian 
> package, or is another maintainer still needed going forward?
> 
> I don't seek to impose anything upon you, I just want to see that this 
> doesn't fall through the cracks.
> 
> Thanks
> John Brooks

So... My first response was a wordier version of the message you replied to,
emphasizing the bit where my opinion is moot. What's written below is as much
as I'm willing to dip back into #debiandrama. While reading, please remember
this point (and don't expect further response).


My original request was for a removal, which is a stance I whole-heartedly
still stand by, and which draws from experiences after adopting the package. A
removal like this is basically orphan++ ("I'm afk4eva" vs. "bad package"). That
changed slightly with zeha's bug modifications, but the effect is still largely
the same, with a touch of stability added. (Thanks zeha!)

(sensible action, but likely helps with that "limbo" perception?)
  ^ https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/rsnapshot

side note --

  > Additionally, in response to this very bug, a new upstream release has 
  > now been issued. In light of this, do you plan to upload the new version 

  You very correctly point out that a number of fixes and a new release came
  directly in response to certain actions. Unfortunately, we draw very different
  conclusions. (a hint, perhaps?)


I appreciate that you responded to that particular (#30) message of mine, where
I say that I don't intend to stand in anyone's way, and offered to help anyone
interested in package maintenance, while also maintaining my position. This is
important to me because some people have indeed taken a stab at rsnapshot
maintenance; however, they very quickly disappeared when they learned that it
would require more effort than just slapping an updated tarball onto the
packaging.

> and continue to fill the role of maintainer for the rsnapshot Debian 
> package, or is another maintainer still needed going forward?

^ "continue" stopped at the RM-RoQA (note: this tag was not an accident)

The root of why I claim how I feel does not matter is because the end result is
the same. The only thing that's required to override my (strong) opinion is for
someone to pick it up, understand it well enough to confidently claim it's
ready for release (start w/ debian bugs), and that'll be the end of this thread.

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