On Tue, Sep 27, 2022, at 4:23 AM, Matthew Vernon wrote: > Thanks for bringing this to the committee; even if Sean is correct that > we won't act on this report, you've described the issues clearly and I > think it was worth bringing to our attention.
Thank you for saying so. > As Sean says, though, questions of what are and aren't RC bugs are > typically the domain of the release team, not the TC. > > I don't think you're asking us to revisit our decision on the approach > taken to merged-/usr No, I am not. To be excruciatingly specific, I do not want to re-litigate the decision on “merged /usr via aliased dirs” vs “merged /usr via moves and symlink farms”. What I am asking for is a schedule change: specifically, that the merged /usr transition not be allowed to proceed past the status quo as of two weeks ago (i.e. *before* init-system-helpers added a dependency on usrmerge|usr-is-merged) until after the dpkg bugs are fixed to the satisfaction of the dpkg maintainers. I do not think that this is “returning to a decision once made” and I *do* think that this is within the ambit of the TC’s responsibilities. (Concretely, the TC would be overruling Luca Bonassi on the subject of whether init-system-helpers may depend on usrmerge|usr-is-merged, and issuing more project-wide advice on the timing and the blockers for the transition.) > I think the best way to proceed would be to open a bug describing the > problem that Simon outlines with RC severity; the relevant maintainers > and release team can then discuss how to resolve the issues and if they > warrant delaying the release or adjusting when we complete the > transition. Obviously those people might want to ask the TC for advice, > but I think that would be up to them at least in the first instance. This gets into interpersonal issues. Supposing I filed a critical- severity bug on any or all of dpkg, usrmerge, or init-system-helpers, I fully expect that the respective maintainer would immediately close it as either not their problem or not actually a problem at all. I would then have to come back here and request that you override their determination of the severity and/or appropriate package to carry the bug. Having the TC act first would save everyone involved some steps, wouldn’t it? zw
