Would it be helpful for your use pattern if GNOME Shell had a specific
keyboard shortcut to open the system menu, bypassing the need to navigate
to the top bar first? I'm honestly surprised that it doesn't already: that
seems like an omission.
One thing that might be helpful is that Super+V will open the notifications
panel (notifications and calendar), and from there you can navigate towards
the System menu with the right arrow key. Unfortunately the number of right
arrow key presses depends whether there are notifications in the panel.
Also, if there is at least one application window open, you can press
Super+F10 to open the application menu, and then the right arrow will
navigate towards the system menu; but that shortcut isn't available if
there are no windows open, making it less useful.
On Sun, 05 Mar 2023 at 08:40:32 -0700, Sam Hartman wrote:
> * Install task-gnome-desktop on top of effectively debian:bookworm out
> of docker (roughly debootstrap --varient=minbase)
GNOME isn't really designed to run in a Docker container, and Docker isn't
really designed to run desktop environments, so you might be making things
harder for yourself than they need to be.
> I'd like to push back on the idea that sloppy focus is required.
Are you using Wayland or Xorg?
I tried installing gnome-session, gdm3 and gnome-terminal plus
their Recommends into a virtual machine (to get a smaller version of
task-gnome-desktop without big applications), and couldn't reproduce this
in that environment without enabling sloppy focus: Ctrl+Alt+Tab to the
top bar stayed in the top bar. I also tried installing task-gnome-desktop
and couldn't reproduce this that way either.
As before, I can reproduce this in Wayland mode by enabling sloppy focus.
If I log in to "GNOME on Xorg" instead of the default GNOME session
(which is Wayland), I can't reproduce this at all, even with sloppy focus.
I think there might be some sort of strange focus behaviour for the
Activities button on the top bar: when I switch on sloppy focus and then
press Super+V, I can navigate left and right to all the other items on
the top bar, but when focus reaches the Activities button it gets stuck
and will not move away with further presses of the arrow keys. However,
I tried installing a Shell extension that removes the Activities button,
and that didn't help with the behaviour of gaining and then immediately
losing focus under Wayland with sloppy focus.
> * alt-f2 run gnome-terminal
> * Confirm I'm in the terminal
Current versions of GNOME are initially in Overview mode after login,
and Alt+F2, gnome-terminal will run the terminal but stay in Overview
mode until you press Super. Just to check, are you taking that into
account, and going from Overview mode into normal window-management mode
before testing?
smcv
