* Michel Dänzer > Both of you, please also make sure (e.g. using xlsclients) that there > are no 'hidden' clients that could interfere, and that killing the > clients actually causes them to close their X display connection (and > possibly open a new one).
I checked this, there is no client left, except the one started by xinit. Usually this is my window manager Openbox, but I did try once to make xinit start an xterm instead, and then start Openbox afterwards. That enabled me to kill Openbox without also pulling down the X server - without that having any effect. I started another window manager afterwards (Window Maker, if I recall correctly), but yhe defunct state persisted. So the only suggestion I have left is that Openbox is somehow triggering a bug in X11R7, or vice verca. In the latter case, however, it is weird that the state remains even after Openbox is killed and another window manager is started in its place. Openbox hasn't changed in a while, either... In any case, I'm running fvwm now, to see if the hang also occur in an X session where Openbox has never been present. I haven't seen a hang yet, but I have done it for too short to conclude yet. I'll keep you posted. Regards -- Tore Anderson