I agree, this was talked on in two podcast this and last month, Distrohoppers Digest from July and Linux Userspace from yesterday in August
Den mån 7 aug. 2023 kl 18:27 skrev Jonathan Carter <j...@debian.org>: > > Source: debian-installer > Version: 20230607+deb12u1 > Severity: wishlist > > Dear Maintainer, > > When setting up users and passwords in debian-installer in a default install, > it prompts a user to set up a root password. In d-i, this works very different > than in other installers, which causes quite a bit of confusion for users. > > Firstly, the instructions start off with "You need to set a password for > 'root'", followed by seemingly uninteresting text about what a good password > should be, which makes it incredibly easy for users to miss the part that sudo > won't be set up for the first user. > > So, many users, and especially newcomers to Debian, follow the instructions > in the > first line and are then surprised when they can't use sudo from their user > from > their newly installed system. > > Would it perhaps make more sense to move the root password setup to the expert > install d-i preseed entirely? Since this is likely only something that expert > users would require in the first place? Either that, or move the explanation > of what happens upward so that it's more prominent and not so easy to miss. In > the latter case, it might also be worth while changing the first line that > says > "you need to..." so that user won't feel compelled to immediately start typing > a root password and click on next. > > Thank you for considering, > > -Jonathan >