On Monday, 7 August 2023 18:25:07 CEST Jonathan Carter wrote: > Source: debian-installer > Version: 20230607+deb12u1 > > Firstly, the instructions start off with "You need to set a password for > 'root'", followed by seemingly uninteresting text about what a good password > should be, which makes it incredibly easy for users to miss the part that > sudo won't be set up for the first user.
Recently did an install in a VM and noticed it's about 5 or 6 lines, not 50 pages, of text ... which I don't consider an unreasonable 'burden' to read when the user is installing a fresh OS on a machine or VM. > So, many users, and especially newcomers to Debian, follow the instructions > in the first line and are then surprised when they can't use sudo from > their user from their newly installed system. > > Would it perhaps make more sense to move the root password setup to the > expert install d-i preseed entirely? Since this is likely only something > that expert users would require in the first place? Unless there's something actually wrong about having an enabled root account with a password, I would prefer if the option would stay. > Either that, or move the explanation of what happens upward so that it's > more prominent and not so easy to miss. Improving the text otoh sounds like a great solution to fix any potential confusion. My 0.02
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