Hello Mark, Happy to see progress on this. I'm adding zeha to CC as he has taken over the official util-linux debian maintainer role.
On Tue, Aug 22, 2023 at 09:58:47AM +0100, Mark Hindley wrote: > Andreas, > > I have prepared the necessary updates to src:sysvinit to incorporate the > hwclock > machinery in initscripts. Specifically the files > > /etc/default/hwclock > /etc/init.d/hwclock.sh > /usr/share/man/man5/hwclock.5 > /usr/lib/udev/hwclock-set > /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/hwclock.rules Looks good to me. HEADS UP: One thought here is that the init script will still need the actual hwclock binary. While util-linux-extra currently is pseudo-essential I think zeha plans to make it a regular package at some point in the future which probably mean you want initscripts to depend on it (or make the scripts handle that hwclock binary is not available, but that sounds less compelling to me). You might want to add the dependency now so that it's not forgotten once util-linux-extra is no longer pseudo-essential. (I'd be happy if I could see the actual diff, but could not spot a relevant branch on salsa/debian/sysvinit.) > > Obviously we need to coordinate the transition and I will add Breaks/Replaces > << the util-linux-extra version which drops the files. Although zeha should probably ack this, I personally think it's better if a single person uploads both packages in a situation like this. I thus propose that you prepare and post a diff for util-linux and then you agree on a time slot where no maintainer uploads are planned (likely after the current version just uploaded has successfully migrated to testing) and then you just NMU util-linux (together with the sysvinit upload). You thus have control over both version numbers used and can set the relationships as needed. (This is how I've done in the past when taking over files from packages maintained by other people and it works best IMHO.) If you'd rather see that someone else some or all of the util-linux poking then please say how you'd like to see it and I'll help out where needed (unless zeha would rather do it himself). Feel free to push a branch to salsa.debian.org/debian/util-linux with proposed changes if you do prepare them. > > If util-linux-extra were to use it, my understanding is that rm_conffile only > removes *unmodified* conffiles so user modifications should be preserved. But > we > might consider synchronised uploads to experimental to test and confirm. Honestly I've forgotten all about how I envisioned this migration to happen. > > Best wishes > > Mark PS. I'd be happy to discuss potential improvements that can be done, but think the first step should only be to get the files moved over. One step at a time. Just don't want to leave you with the impression that I/we are just dumping all the burden on you for old sins. For example the hwclock(5) manpage probably contains questionable information. There's really alot of pretending that userspace is actually in control of the RTCs while the reality is that the kernel has alot of its own policy around this and unfortunetly some information is set at compile-time. //Andreas
