Hi,

On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 23:47:17 +0100
Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.deti...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I had been using sylpheed before & clawsmail
> more recently. I do think it's time to drop the ball:
> 
> i.e:
>  1) RM src:sylpheed
>  2) let src:claws-mail provide a "sylpheed" transitional package,
>   3) maybe with a config migration script, but this step is not mandatory
>       to get 1 & 2 done.

For this route I think is mandatory the existing configurations of sylpheed
do still work after being replaced by claws-mail. IMO better than leaving
users with a migrated configuration that doesn't work is preferable to let
the users to configure claws-mail from scratch.

Note that claws-mail has migration code for sylpheed configurations since the
early days, but with the years passed since they forked this could be easily
missing some change.

> Conveniently the version number of claws-mail is higher than sylpheed's
> one, so no need for extra debhelper wizardy.
> 
> (I did somethink like "3" for residualvm -> scummvm but MR was rejected...
> it's better to discuss first)
> 
> Greetings
> 
> > From: Bastian Germann <b...@debian.org>
> > Date: Wed, 25 Oct 2023 20:15:53 +0200
> >
> > With claws-mail, there is a sylpheed fork available in Debian that has
> > the porting to GTK 3 done. sylpheed upstream development seems to have
> > stalled. Please consider to have a good migration story for users and
> > get rid of sylpheed for trixie.  


My feeling, from the decades I've been subscribed to upstream ML, is that
for most of Sylpheed users migration to Claws Mail is not an option. Of
course I could be wrong, and not having it in Debian could also lean the
scale for some of those users, but, although the core function is still the
same, this is not a trivial change from the users' point of view IMO.

To summarize: I think is better to some slightly annoyed users who had to
install claws-mail by hand than a bunch of angry users because they got
claws-mail installed when they simply requested to upgrade sylpheed.

Said that, we're still at the beginning of the cycle and there's still a lot
of time before trixie is released, no need to make a rushed decision now.

best regards,
-- 
 Ricardo Mones
 http://people.debian.org/~mones
 «Whistler's Law: You never know who is right, but you always know who 
 is in charge.»

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