Hej Soren, Am Mittwoch, 13. Dezember 2023, 22:19:04 CET schrieb Soren Stoutner: [...] > Qt has LTS releases about every 18 months and supports them for 36 > months (three years). This means there are always two active LTS > releases. Unless there is an unusually long freeze, stable should > end up with a release that has somewhere between 1and 2 years of > support. It might not be perfect, but it is a lot better than what > we currently have.
Don't forget that the open-source Qt LTS releases are delayed by a year. > The transition to KDE 6 is a bit of a unique situation. I would > imagine that it would need to mature a bit before most people want to > be using it (thinking of the old KDE 4 transition, or even the one to > KDE 5). By the time KDE 6 is ready to propagate to stable, I would > imagine that there will be a version that is based on an LTS release > of Qt. The release schedule for Plasma 6 is not set in stone yet, but the earliest they can base it on a Qt LTS would be in about a year. Let's see how that lines up with trixie. > Looking at KDE’s release information, I see that KDE has an LTS > release about 1-2 years. I am assuming these KDE LTS releases are > compatible with Qt LTS releases, although if anyone has any > information to the contrary please share. > > https://community.kde.org/Schedules/Plasma_5[1] > > https://endoflife.date/kde-plasma[2] > > How feasible would it be to make sure that stable always ships with > paired LTS releases of KDE and Qt? KDE doesn't have LTS releases, only Plasma has. If Plasma 6 continues the path of Plasma 5, they'll have LTS releases every 2 years, namely early in even years so that it fits with the Ubuntu LTS release among other things. And that is quite a bad fit for Debian. [Plasma 5.27 in bookworm is an outlier. It was made LTS because it is the last Plasma 5 release.] KDE used to support Plasma LTS releases for about 18-20 months. That meant that by the time of a Debian release, the LTS release is almost out of support. And yes, support for an LTS version stops several months before the next LTS version is released. > As you point out above, those > release windows might not line up exactly with Debian’s release > window, but it seems like it would be an improvement on the current > situation. Beyond security support issues, there would probably be a > lot of stability benefits (like KMail not breaking as often). There is no LTS version of Kmail. Neither the Frameworks nor KDE Gear have LTS versions. By the time of a Debian release, both are already out of support. > If you don’t think it is feasible to ship LTS versions of KDE and Qt > in stable, how do you propose handling proper security support for > KDE and Qt? I can only do with what I have. If you want better support, you need more resources. -- Med vänliga hälsningar Patrick Franz