On Fri, 2024-10-04 at 19:09 -0400, Jeremy Bícha wrote: > On Fri, Aug 30, 2024 at 3:39 PM Simon McVittie <s...@debian.org> wrote: > > As discussed on > > https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/meta-gnome3/-/merge_requests/12 > > we need to decide whether a new installation of trixie with GNOME should > > default to installing cheese (same as bookworm) or gnome-snapshot. > > Opening this bug as a reminder. > > I think we should go ahead with putting gnome-snapshot (a webcam app) > in gnome-core's Depends. Like with gnome-text-editor for Debian 12, we > can't have an alternate dependency that was previously already > installed and have upgraders get the new app installed without some > kind of upgrade script which Debian does not currently have. > > Until last week in Testing when Pipewire was fixed (version 1.2.4), > the Snapshot app wasn't usable on many computers. The Snapshot is much > more complex technically than an app like Cheese as it uses many new > technologies: Rust+libadwaita, Glycin, Pipewire, Camera portal, etc. > But we think it works well now. > > From a user perspective, compared to Cheese, it is a very simple app. > It does not offer any of the fun effects and filters Cheese has. > > I don't know how often a simple webcam app like this would be used. I > imagine many people would just use webcam webapps. There is at least > some need for people to want to test whether their webcam is working > without needing to use a website in a web browser. I believe OEMs like > to be able to demonstrate how well their webcam works also. > > I believe for gnome-core, we need to ship what GNOME considers to be > GNOME Core, unless we have a strong reason to diverge and I don't > think we have a reason to not include gnome-snapshot any more. > > Thank you, > Jeremy Bícha >
Hi Jeremy and all, +1 for moving to gnome-snapshot. As Jeremy mentioned, I also find that these particular apps are not that often used and certainly not heard from anyone who classes these webcam apps as being important. This being the case, I think we should bite the bullet, make the change and be that little bit closer to what is seen by the upstream project as GNOME Core. Regards Phil -- "I play the game for the game’s own sake" Arthur Conan Doyle - The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans -- Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/kathenasorg Internet Relay Chat (IRC): kathenas Matrix: #kathenas:matrix.org Website: https://kathenas.org Instagram: https://instagram.com/kathenasorg/ Threads: https://www.threads.net/@kathenasorg --
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