On Tue, 4 Feb 2025 at 23:58, Simon Josefsson <si...@josefsson.org> wrote: > > All, > > Is the license below acceptable for inclusion into 'non-free'? It is > claimed to cover the tarsnap software, see > https://github.com/Tarsnap/tarsnap and https://www.tarsnap.com/ for > background. > > Regarding RFP/ITP status, there is now a Salsa pipeline building the > Debian package: > > https://salsa.debian.org/jas/tarsnap/ > > It seems to build. If the license is deemed acceptable for inclusion > into Debian 'non-free' I plan to upload it, closing this old RFP bug. I > am guessing that the unusual license may have been regarded as a > blocker. > > /Simon >
This in the following, that Simon wrote > Copyright 2006 - 2022 Tarsnap Backup Inc. > All rights reserved. > > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, without modification, > is permitted for the sole purpose of using the "tarsnap" backup service > provided by Tarsnap Backup Inc. Because what we can read from their website [!QUOTE] Tarsnap is a secure, efficient online backup service: Encryption: your data can only be accessed with your personal keys.We can't access your data even if we wanted to! Source code: the client code is available.You don't need to trust us; you can check the encryption yourself! [/QUOTE] Which clearly explains the main aim of the licenses they had put on that source code versionated on github. On Wed, 5 Feb 2025 at 06:06, Michael Lustfield <mich...@lustfield.net> wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 5:29 PM Simon Josefsson <si...@josefsson.org> wrote: > > "Andrew M.A. Cater" <amaca...@einval.com> writes: > > > On Tue, Feb 04, 2025 at 11:58:00PM +0100, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > > Packaging the software for Debian amounts to modification: minimal > > > modification but modification anyway. That presumably means we > > > can't distribute it at all, even in non-free. > > [cut] > They actually included > their own debian/ directory, making it a clear license violation to > touch anything inside. > Hence Michael is right. Because even the smallest and most innocent change can compromise the trust of the chain of the data management as they intended. Finally, we reach the conclusion that their motto is not just for marketing - "Tarsnap Online backups for the truly paranoid" - and that's it, including their licensing policy. Best regards, R-
