Reposting previously private discussion to the bug thread.

Hi Jonas,

I have tested and verified the syntax highlighting for Rust and Python, and
I can confirm that it works well in my environment.

I propose that we define the scope for the core package first. Based on
common development needs, I suggest including: C, C++, Python, Rust, Shell,
Make, JSON, TOML, and Markdown. These languages cover the majority of my
current development workflow.

I look forward to hearing your opinion on this proposed list.

Best regards,

Junyong Liang

On Thu, Apr 30, 2026 at 1:54 PM Smart SangGe <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Jonas,
>
> I have tested and verified the syntax highlighting for Rust and Python,
> and I can confirm that it works well in my environment.
>
> I propose that we define the scope for the core package first. Based on
> common development needs, I suggest including: C, C++, Python, Rust, Shell,
> Make, JSON, TOML, and Markdown. These languages cover the majority of my
> current development workflow.
>
> I look forward to hearing your opinion on this proposed list.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Junyong Liang
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2026, 16:44 Smart SangGe <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jonas,
>>
>> I’m working on a hx-highlight-core package covering popular languages
>> like Rust, Python, and Shell. To ensure compliance with Debian’s offline
>> build requirements and Helix's specific version needs, I’m using the
>> following two-phase approach:
>>
>> 1. Source Preparation: A script parses languages.toml for exact commit
>> hashes, fetches the corresponding Tree-sitter sources, and aggregates them
>> into a single, reproducible .orig.tar.xz tarball.
>> 2. Build Phase: Using the debian/rules, the build compiles these local
>> sources into .so files using a standard C compiler and installs them to a
>> global directory, requiring no network access.
>>
>> This workflow maintains determinism while fulfilling the requirement for
>> specific grammar snapshots. Does this approach align with your expectations
>> and Debian packaging standards?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Junyong Liang
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2026 at 4:34 PM Jonas Smedegaard <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Quoting Smart SangGe (2026-04-25 08:24:34)
>>> > Hi Jonas,
>>> >
>>> > I’ve looked into the documentation and source code of both Helix and
>>> > Tree-sitter, and I must admit the situation is indeed challenging.
>>> >
>>> > One observation: the existing tree-sitter-*-src packages in stable
>>> appear
>>> > to be locked to specific version tags rather than individual commits.
>>> This
>>> > might cause some friction since Helix often tracks very specific (and
>>> > newer) snapshots of grammar repositories.
>>> >
>>> > I’m still interested in improving this. If you have a preferred
>>> > strategy—whether it’s grouping popular grammars into a single source
>>> > package or pushing for more individual grammar packages—please let me
>>> know.
>>> > I’d be happy to assist with the packaging work to help move this
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your interest in solving this, SangGe. You are very welcome
>>> to join me in the maintenance of helix.
>>>
>>> As I see it, there a several challenges here. I have tried to describe
>>> some of that already in earlier posts to this bugreport, so please read
>>> also earlier posts :-)
>>>
>>> I would prefer that helix plugins are packaged as separate source
>>> packages independently from helix itself. Reason for that is that I
>>> would prefer that the potential instability for supporting some fringe
>>> language would not affect the stability of helix itself or of support
>>> for other languages. That would probably require the src:hx package to
>>> provide a binary package hx-dev containing needed source files for such
>>> plugin source packages to build from.
>>>
>>> It makes sense to me to bundle plugins together. If possible to
>>> identify reasonably reliable, then I think the ideal would be to bundle
>>> source packages by stability and binary packages by runtime relations -
>>> e.g. having src:hx-plugins-core providing hx-plugins-shell (for bash
>>> and dotfiles and other common "core" formats) and hx-plugins-python
>>> (for python3 and python-related formats) and hx-plugins-c (for C and
>>> cpp related classic formats) etc., and src:hx-plugins-extra providing
>>> various sets of less common format plugins.
>>>
>>> I don't mind bundling Rust crates - please see the source code for how
>>> I already do that for tree-house. And please do ask, if you cannot
>>> understand how that embedding is established using git-buildpackage and
>>> watch file and copyright file.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>>  - Jonas
>>>
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