Hi Mark,

Quoting Matthias Geiger (2026-06-01 22:35:27)
> > > > What do you imagine would be the next steps? Where does this hang now?
> > > 
> > > I suppose
> > > 
> > >  1) get this patch accepted into src:init-system-helpers
> > > 
> > >  2) get the Conflicts: insserv removed from systemd-sysv.
> > > 
> > > Are you able to start with 1)?
> > 
> > I already expressed earlier that I have no desire to argue this out with the
> > systemd maintainers who do not seem to be in favour of this change. Or, in 
> > case
> > of Michael Biebl, even explicitly expressed that they do not want to change
> > init-system-helpers in that way. I filed
> > https://salsa.debian.org/debian/init-system-helpers/-/merge_requests/33 but 
> > I
> > have no energy to push this change on a social level. I would need help from
> > others if accepting this change needs any convincing of people.
> >
> Hi,
> I would also support this change since this means openrc could run real 
> autopkgtests with itself as init etc.

I filed the MR against init-system-helpers more than 48 days ago and there is
zero maintainer reaction so far.

Michael Biebl is against this change and I do not see a way to change this.

As I see it, we are stuck and nothing is moving.

Unless you have another idea, the only practical way forward I see is creating
an extra binary package shipping the insserv program in some location that is
not in $PATH.

Or do you see any other way forward?

Thanks!

cheers, josch

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