>I have updated the API example to show use of GetFirstImageInList() after 
>using AppendImageToList().

That should address my most immediate concern, which was essentially rooted in 
code based on the original demo.c from about 15 years ago suddenly not working 
in spite of still appearing to follow the same design, and demo.c not having 
been updated with the differences.

There may be a Debian policy issue from an API-breaking change in a minor point 
release of a library. That's a whole other can of worms that's maybe way too 
late to do anything about other than to ensure is documented.

c.


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In response to Christophe's concerns, I have updated the API example to show 
use of GetFirstImageInList() after using AppendImageToList(). I also improved 
the documentation for each of the image list APIs.  If something is missing, or 
not clear, please let me know.


The image list APIs have existed roughly as is since at least January 2002 and 
many were originally written by John Cristy (ImageMagick author).  In fact, the 
functions which appeared in 2002 were already elsewhere in the code and 
gathered/renamed to create list.c.


There is good reason to be confused regarding an image list given that although 
each entry in an image list is one image frame, some file formats (e.g. GIF) 
may contain many frames.  It is possible (and often reasonable) to conjoin 
frames from many files into one list.  So frames from formats which only 
support one frame per file could be mixed with some/all of the frames from GIF 
files.  When dealing with GIF files, it makes most sense that all frames 
correspond to the same GIF file.


Appending to a list becomes slower and slower as the list gets longer and 
longer if the list reference is not the tail of the list. It is convenient if 
the code which recently appended to the list uses GetFirstImageInList() to 
return the head of the list to higher level consumers.  It appears to me that 
ReadGIFImage() does return the head of the list.


Bob


On 7/28/26 09:34, Beauregard,Christophe (ECCC) wrote:
>GraphicsMagick rarely changes its API behavior.

Agreed, that's 100% why we migrated to it.

>Use GetFirstImageInList() when the  pointer to the first image in the list is 
>needed.

The problem I think I'm having with this change is it's unclear that the first 
image in the list is needed for WriteImage(), because you have an API that's 
inconsistent about when any list element can be a shorthand for the entire list.

For example the call:

     GetImageListLength(thumbnails)

Always returns 6 whether it's before or after the:

      thumbnails=GetFirstImageInList(thumbnails);

Since the list functions (only the list functions?) internally rewind to the 
beginning of the list before doing what they do.

Clearly we're passing a 6 image list to GetImages(), and the list code knows 
it's a 6 image list, but... WriteImage() (and presumably most other API calls) 
ignore those list API semantics. This is misleading.

I'm not saying the behaviour is right or wrong, but at minimum the API 
documentation really should highlight the distinction between functions which 
operate on image lists (per list API semantics) and functions which only 
operate on the rest of the image list.

c.
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It seems that the API demo stopped working due to a documented behavior change 
for the GraphicsMagick 1.3.40 release:

API Updates:

* AppendImageToList() now updates the image list pointer to be the
  image which was just added.  Use GetFirstImageInList() when the
  pointer to the first image in the list is needed.

GraphicsMagick rarely changes its API behavior.  This change was made due to 
observing performance issues with many (e.g. 10k) images in a list. It is much 
more efficient to remember the end of the list while appending additional 
frames to the list rather than re-starting from the beginning.

Bob

On 7/28/26 08:34, Christophe Beauregard wrote:
The following change to the demo code fixes the problem (which is what 
ConvertImageCommand() does):

$ diff demo.c.bak demo.c
68a69
>        thumbnails=GetFirstImageInList(thumbnails);

Presumably some change internally stopped the GIF coder from finding the head 
of the list, or the Append call changed the ordering, or something?

$ sh test.sh
libgraphicsmagick1-dev    1.4+really1.3.45+hg17696-1
Reading 1.png ... 1 frames
Reading 2.png ... 1 frames
Reading 3.png ... 1 frames
Reading 4.png ... 1 frames
Reading 5.png ... 1 frames
Reading 6.png ... 1 frames
Writing out.gif ... 6 frames
out.gif[0] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000000s
out.gif[1] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000034s
out.gif[2] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000036s
out.gif[3] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 128c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000034s
out.gif[4] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000034s
out.gif[5] GIF 106x80+0+0 PseudoClass 256c 8-bit 9.1Ki 0.000u 0m:0.000035s

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