Le dim. 18 oct. 2026 à 09:34, Andreas Røsdal <[email protected]> a
écrit :

> Karsten, Carsten, Jérémy, Sebastian,
>
> *I pray and beg that you please include Northstar Browser (Nordstjernen)
> in Debian, in next stable Forky in 2027.*
>

> *If the Northstar browser is included in Debian Linux, I will do my utmost
> to make the browser successful and ensure it works well in Debian,*
> *and I will make sure that the Debian project and Debian contributors like
> you, and the four of you in particular, will be rewarded*
> *and forever honoured for your contributions to Debian, open source
> software and for providing diversity of web browser software on the
> internet.*
>

For a young software like this, it might be a better strategy to maintain
it in testing, and upload updates to https://backports.debian.org/ to
distribute to stable users.
When in stable, a package is supposed to only receive patches (bug-fixing,
security patches): that might actually hurt your users, because for now
your browser is still growing and changing.
In any case, once this browser is in debian/sid, it might be a good idea to
contact the release team about the best way to deal with it.



> We believe the Northstar browser is well suited for Debian Linux, and that
> including Northstar browser is in philosophical spirit:
> https://www.debian.org/intro/philosophy - "We want to create a free
> operating system, freely available for everyone. Now, when we use the word
> "free", we're not talking about money,
> instead, we are referring to software freedom."
> Northstar browser is secure, because the code-base is new, modern C,
> written by state-of-the-art technology such as Claude, and we are also many
> contributors who review
> the generated source code and test the browser continously.  The source
> code is now *245,000 lines of C code*, which is much more maintainable
> and easier to review and audit,
>  than the source code of Firefox and Chrome where the source code runs
> into many millions of lines of source code.
>
> We have applied for a grant from* NLnet Foundation, the Restack*, with
> deadline in November 2026: https://nlnet.nl/restack/
> Northstar fits the goals on NLNet: "Free and *open source software* and
> hardware, open standards, open data, open science, and open core internet
> infrastructure are democratising innovation and learning,
>  and are together driving society and industry forward at an unprecedented
> pace.". We hope NLnet will fund the Northstar (Nordstjernen) browser
> because it is an independent, JIT-free, C-based browser engine
>  developed in Europe that directly aligns with their Restack mission to
> build a secure, open, and sovereign internet stack free from Big Tech
> monopolies.
>
> I suggest we focus on including the Nordstjernen-browser project
> <https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/nordstjernen-browser>, instead of
> the two other variants, Southstar
> <https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/southstar-browser> and Northstar
> <https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/northstar-browser>. In the future we
> can also include the Rust version when it becomes
> mature enough. In Debian I suggest we use the English name Northstar /
> northstar-browser,
> while actually including Nordstjernen:
> https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/nordstjernen-browser
>
> We can also have discussions about the dependencies and how to package the
> application in Debian,
> and we will make changes according to your specifications. For *QuickJS *and
> *Lexbor *we recommend that we
> use our custom versions of these libraries because they are optimized for
> our use-case and improved for
> security and preformance.
>
>
> Sincerely,
> Andreas Røsdal
>
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2026 at 10:11 PM Jérémy Lal <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Le sam. 17 oct. 2026 à 20:37, Andreas Røsdal <[email protected]>
>> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello Karsten, Carsten, Jérémy, Sebastian
>>>
>>> I would like to contact you to request that you please include the web
>>> browser (Northstar)
>>> we are making into Debian.
>>>
>>
>> First things first, keep the ITP bug in the loop.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> There are 3 variants:
>>>
>>> Nordstjernen browser, main flagship browser, implemented in C:
>>> https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/nordstjernen-browser
>>>
>>
>> Debian strives when dependencies are not vendored, so this is interesting
>> to analyze:
>> https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/nordstjernen-browser#dependencies
>>
>> Debian is going to favor ffmpeg, for example. (or even gstreamer, if it
>> was possible).
>>
>> That being said, this browser looks good, considering it is so young.
>> It is slow, its UI is looking like old browsers, but it can run windy.com
>> or youtube.com,
>> which is impressive.
>>
>>
>>> Northstar browser, minimalistic, implemented in C:
>>> https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/northstar-browser
>>>
>>> Southstar browser, implemented in Rust, less mature:
>>> https://github.com/nordstjernen-web/southstar-browser
>>>
>>
>> I tried that one too, doesn't load anything, as expected for a less
>> mature browser.
>>
>>
>>> Website: https://nordstjernen.org/
>>>
>>> The browser has GPL 3 license.Have have ca 700 users in Windows store at
>>> the moment.
>>>
>>> I hope we can cooperate on the distribution on this web browser.
>>>
>>> The Internet needs more web browser engine alternatives than just Chrome
>>> and Firefox.
>>>
>>
>>> Northstar (Nordstjernen) browser is an independent, JIT-free, C-based
>>> browser engine developed in Europe with a mission to build a secure, open,
>>> and sovereign internet stack free from Big Tech monopolies.
>>>
>>
>> These are strong arguments, however, it might be a good idea to not
>> target next debian stable,
>> given the youngness of this browser.
>>
>> Jérémy
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>> Andreas Røsdal
>>>
>>

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