Hello Mike,

sorry for the Cc:, I wasn't sure the bug will be automatically
forwarded you.

On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:39:36 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 02:02:32AM +0200, Luca Capello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>> First one (very minor bug): every time I launch Bon Echo [1], the
>> tab doesn't have the close button, which appears as soon as I press
>> Ctrl-w to close the tab.
>
> This is a feature. Closing the last tab doesn't close the window, but
> recreates a new tab.

Well, actually I don't see the point in this feature.  If I close a
tab, I'd expect that the window will be closed if this is the only
visible tab, not that a new one will be opened (for that there's
Ctrl-t).  Especially when more than one window is open (this is not my
case, but anyway)...

After some tests, I found something interesting:

1) the same behavior is reproducible on a Windows 2.0b1 version (maybe
   you already know this, because it's a feature)

2) this behavior is reproducible only when the option "Hide the tab
   bar when only one web site is open" (Edit -> Preferences -> Tab) is
   de-activated.  Because if the tab bar is hidden and only one tab is
   open, Ctrl-w close the window, too.  Again, I don't see the point
   for two different behaviors...

> The close button appearing is a bug, though.

This is present on a Windows 2.0b1, too, exactly like on my Debian.

>> Second one (annoying): I thought that Ctrl-q would close Firefox,
[...]
> There is no such ctrl+q shortcut. You can use alt-f4.

You can't assume Alt-F4 will work on all WMs, because that's not true
by default.  I use ratpoison and it doesn't bind Alt-F4 to close
windows (like Metacity or Openbox do).  In fact, on ratpoison hitting
Alt-F4 on a just launched Firefox session open the url pop-down
selection window, like hitting a single F4...  Read below about
Windows and Mac OS X.

>> [1] BTW, couldn't we always use Firefox instead?  E.g., in the
[...]
> Bon Echo is the beta name. It will swith to Firefox as soon as 2.0
> is released.

I know this, what is (a bit) annoying is that sometime there's
Firefox, sometime Bon Echo.  I'd like only one name.

BTW, the official Windows 2.0b1 version always uses Firefox (this is
only a remark, not an offense or whatever, as I don't care about the
name per se).

>> [2] I found that the latest Windows stable version 1.5.0.5 hasn't
>>     the Ctrl-q shorcut :-(
>
> This isn't surprising.

OK, so why does the latest Mac OS X stable version (1.5.0.5) indeed
have a Ctrl-q shortcut (well, Command-q to be precise)?

AFAIK Ctrl-q is a widely used shortcut for File -> Exit/Quit.  I see
two problems with the new behavior:

1) the same version is different WRT to different OSs (where OS X has
   the shortcut, Windows and GNU/Linux not)

2) let's say Alt-F4 is used to close the window, but this seems to me
   not a Firefox shortcut, but a WM one; moreover, this is not
   publicized in the File menu

> If you agree, we'll just close this bug, or retitle it for the close
> button appearing thing.

I agree for the close button appearing bug, but I'd leave this bug for
the other two features, as wishlists or wontfix, maybe forwarded
upstream.

Thank you for your quick reply :-)

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca

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