On Tuesday 01 August 2006 15:00, you wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Thank you for reporting this bug. > > On Mon, 2006-07-31 at 18:02 -0700, Robert Jeffrey Miesen wrote: > > Package: mondo > > Version: 2.08-2-3 > > Severity: critical > > Justification: breaks the whole system > > I am afraid that this is not a critical bug. Rather it is an important > bug as it makes mondo completely unusable for some people, i.e. you in > this case, but it certainly doesn't effect your _running_ system at all. > (I have just completed a full archive and restore run using a PATA-only > setup with no problem to confirm that their is no general problem.) >
OK, I understand your reasoning. Thank you for clarifying to me the nature of
critical bugs.
> > Upon booting from a DVD image of my entire system, mondo/mindi detects
> > my SATA (Serial ATA) hard disk as an IDE drive.
>
> (I do not currently have a SATA disk unfortunately, so I can't try this
> myself at the moment.)
>
> Am I getting this right that you are saying that your SATA disk which is
> sda in your system appears as hda when restoring to that very same
> system?
>
Yes, you are correctly understanding me.
> Could you describe how you perform the restore? This would include any
> changes that you make to the hardware like replacing or turning-off
> disks and such. Also, could you take a photo of the monitor to
> illustrate the problem.
This is roughly how I do a restore on my new system:
1. Boot up computer from internal DVD drive.
2. Type in "interactive" from the command prompt and wait for Mindi to
boot up.
3. Select the "Interactively" option at the first curses prompt.
4. Select the "DVD Disks" option at the second curses prompt.
5. Verify that the mountlist is to my liking (I usually end up deleting
sdb and sdc from this list, since they are jump disks and I don't restore
jump disks).
6. Rip my hair out when I find that Mondo/Mindi detected my SATA as hda
instead of sda.
7. Eject disk, reboot system.
I don't turn off any hardware, though I have an external cdrom listed
in /etc/fstab which I leave disconnected from my system when doing restores
(this external DVD burner is detected as /dev/scd0 or /dev/scd1 device,
depending on the state of /dev/ at the time of mounting.
I don't know how to take screenshots of the screen while in Mindi, so I cannot
include a picture to illustrate the problem (and I also lack a digital camera
as well).
>
> Further to that, could you boot into expert mode by entering 'expert' at
> the rescue media boot prompt and hitting enter. Once the system has
> booted could you do:
> fdisk -l /dev/hda
> and
> fdisk -l /dev/sda
> and send post the output. Could you do the same in your normal system?
Done. See the tarred and bzipped file attached to this email and check the
appropriately named folders for the information you are looking for. Let me
know if for some reason my naming scheme is less intuitive than I think it is
and you need help deciphering it.
>
> If you have sda as your disk, then hda would quite likely be your
> optical drive (maybe in your case your DVD writer).
Actually, in this case my DVD writer is detected as hdc (it should have been
detected as scd0, since it too is a serial device of some sort).
> Maybe what really
> happens is that the SATA disk is not recognised at all and hda is the
> optical drive.
My hard disk is detected as hda. See the output for fdisk -l /dev/hda for
mondo and compare that to the output for fdisk -l /dev/sda on my system to
see what I mean. Again, my DVD writer is detected as hdc (I
checked /tmp/CDROM-LIVES-HERE and found that out in Mindi).
> Again, it would be helpful to understand better how you
> are restoring. As an example you wouldn't just overwrite your SATA disk
> I presume. So, do you change disks or do you turn them off? (It's that
> sort of things that I really need to understand better.)
Well, it depends on what the situation is. If my system gets completely hosed,
then I will likely just overwrite my SATA disk by typing in the
magical "nuke" option at the Mondo/Mindi boot prompt and watch my system come
back to life (I hope).
The only disks I "turn off" are my external DVD writer and my jump disks,
since none of them are backed up.
>
> Could you also send me the output of lsmod when in your normal system
> and when booted into the restore system in expert mode as described
> above.
Done. See the tarred and bzipped file attached to this email and check the
appropriately named folders for the information you are looking for. Let me
know if for some reason my naming scheme is less intuitive than I think it is
and you need help deciphering it.
>
> > This makes my backup virtually worthless in the event of a
> > catastrophic failure of my system (whether from me messing it up or my
> > hard disk failing). That is why I called this bug a critical bug,
> > because it does break the whole system when you can't restore your
> > system.
>
> Please see the top of my response. I can understand that you consider
> this serious and for you it likely is. For Debian as a whole, however,
> it is not. Note that this does not influence my commitment to fixing the
> problem - I do definitely find this important.
>
> If there is anything else that you can think of that could be related,
> please mention it! The more information we have the more likely we can
> fix this.
I also included the output of uname -r from both Mondo and my system. Note
that for my system, my kernel is a custom-built kernel from the
linux-source-2.6.17 debian package and is an SMP kernel that also has a few
minor options turned on (I don't remember what they are, but I went ahead and
included the .config file for your convenience).
Hope all of this helps you in diagnosing and fixing this bug. Please let me
know if you need any more information. Take care.
>
> Best regards,
> Andree
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