severity 354622 serious quit On Tue, Sep 19, 2006 at 12:55:55AM -0400, Mike Connor wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >>I've confirmed that this isn't acceptable usage of the trademark. If > >>you are going to use the Firefox name, you must also use the rest of the > >>branding.
> >If Eric's statement that the firefox logos are distributed under a non-free > >copyright license remains accurate, then it seems that ultimately, the only > >acceptable solution to Debian would unfortunately be to stop using the > >firefox name altogether. So I'm hoping we can find a middle ground > >somewhere. > Are the Debian logos and trademarks free? No, the Debian logos are not free. This is considered a bug. To the extent that the DFSG addresses trademarks at all, I believe it's covered under DFSG #4, i.e., trademarks are always free if we're allowed to use them at all. > Is there some sort of convenient rebranding switch that creators of > derivative distributions can use? No, there is not. > Understood, but it is important to consider legal implications when > mucking around with trademarks. At the least, file a bug in our > bugzilla (Marketing -> Trademark Permissions) if you want to try to get > an exception to how things are typically done. That said, when I asked > cbeard (who's in charge of product/branding issues), he explicitly said > no to this case. Given your subsequent comments indicating that the Mozilla Foundation reserves the right to revoke trademark grants for released versions of Debian, I don't see that we have any choice but to discontinue our use of the marks. For my part I think your trademark handling is unprecedented in Free Software and really rather unreasonable, and it's certainly far removed from the understanding that we had with Gervase previously, but it's your trademark to manage as you wish and Debian will certainly take appropriate steps to ensure we aren't infringing it. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
