Am Freitag, den 22.09.2006, 00:53 +0200 schrieb Sjoerd Simons: > On Thu, Sep 21, 2006 at 01:50:23PM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > Ross, since you maintain it, I'd appreciate any thoughts you have about > > whether avahi should be included in the default desktop install. IMHO, > > you should have veto power over putting it in; conversely if you think > > it's a good idea that will count for something in my decision. > > I really would like to see avahi in the default (gnome?, kde?,.. ) desktop > install. All parts of zeroconf should really be what the name implies, no > extra > configurations needed. Having things like music sharing (when turned on in > rhythmbox), the autodetection of local websites in epiphany or the > autodetection of local ftp/sftp/dav-shares in nautilus just work is imho an > important part of the polish that we as a distribution can provide to the > gnome > desktop. I don't know how well it's integrated in the other desktops, so i > guess that should be on a case-by-case basis.
Completely agreed here, we should have it installed and enabled by default, at least for gnome (I don't know how the situation is on KDE). Also I agree to Lennart's assessment that regarding security implications it is more likely that DNS/DHCP are a problem than avahi-daemon. But we should only enable/install avahi-daemon by default, not avahi-autoipd (which will be packaged with 0.6.14) as this was not yet really widely tested and could have some unforeseen consequences. Maybe later, in the default configuration it shouldn't interfere with something else and only makes your life better at the times where no DHCP server is available (which you can't say about the "zeroconf" package when looking at the bugreports). IMHO Ubuntu's decision to have it a) not installed by default and b) not running by default even after installing it with the upcoming release is wrong and destroys the real use of zeroconf (beeing zero configuration)... I wouldn't create a "zeroconf" task as it's a bit weird to "configure" (i.e. select the task) something to have no configuration ;) > If avahi is install by default though, libnss-mdns should probably be in too. > Although that package needs some work (ensuring automatic setup of nsswitch..) > and the maintainer seems MIA :(. I've been planning to do some work on the > package, but didn't have the time yet.. Agreed... after fixing the few points you and Lennart mentioned on IRC. Bye
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