Hi Sam,

On Sunday 01 October 2006 22:31, you wrote:
> Please note that this new feature does not interfere with your
> approach of using the debootstrap build method and then running
> softupdate. 

Sure. I would just be happy to throw away my approach and use yours :-)

> Perhaps we can suggest these two methods as alternatives 
> for building vservers in the documentation.

I think this (under the title "setting up vservers") is more confusing and has 
no benifits. 

My approach is just a logical extension of softupdates, which should be 
covered anyway.

Your approach should be the offical way to setup vservers.

> Far from being a "regression", each approach has its advantages and
> disadvantages; the approach of using the nfsroot (which, of course,
> becomes a somewhat figurative term) makes the build a single logical
> step, and ensures consistency if the intent is to prototype real host
> builds using vservers. 

An nfsroot is just debootstrap plus some extra packages defined in fai.conf. 
So the consistency can be easily reproduced without relying on a actual 
existing nfsroot.

I also fail to see why an nfsroot is needed for i386 builds on amd64.

> As for the default paths being "obsolete", I am currently working on

I hope you read my comment on #vserver about why I'm so upset if I see those 
pathes: I insisted three years to make FAI behave in a FHS compatible way and 
after this long time I really freak out, if I see /usr/local/share/fai - it 
makes my eyes bleed and my brain cry ;-) Nothing personal :)

> making this usable for the current stable release of debian before I
> move on to making it work with testing.  I based it off FAI 2.10.1;
> and plan to re-base it off the latest 2.x release.  Please bear in
> mind that I have been familiarizing myself with FAI along the way, and
> that now we have a working system (and the projects we are using this
> for - the .nz registry system and NZ Electoral Enrolment Centre
> offices - are in deployment phase), we are in a position to spend time
> to take our improvements and share them.  

Cool.

> Perhaps in the meantime you 
> might have suggestions for detecting which version of FAI is
> installed

"dpkg -l fai" or "dpkg -l fai-client" if using the split packages (which are 
default since etch.)


regards,
        Holger

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