* Mike Connor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> >>To my knowledge, Debian isn't including "extra" security fixes over
> >>and above what we're shipping.  If they are, that would possibly be
> >>considered an act of bad faith between downstream and upstream,
> >>unless the security bug was Debian specific.  This type of potential
> >>"Firefox from foo is better than Firefox from bar" comparison is
> >>something we have explicitly avoided.
> >
> >As pointed out many times, we've had to backport security fixes
> >ourselves into 1.0.4 because security support has dropped for the 1.0
> >branch. So whether that's "extra" or not, I don't know. Even if we
> >added a security patch that the original version didn't have I don't
> >see how we could act in bad faith. Even if we somehow neglected to
> >file a bug report on it, it's not like we could hide the fact that we
> >had added the patch from you.
> 
> Backporting security fixes from newer releases is not really "extra"  
> in my mind.  It'd be fixing stuff that isn't fixed elsewhere without  
> discussing it with us.
> 
> The argument for fixing upstream is that by taking a fix for a bug  
> that's unpatched upstream, you will call attention to that potential  
> exploit, and thus put non-Debian users at risk. The problem is  
> exponentially worse if we don't know the issue exists and thus don't  
> know we need to fix it.  If that's not malicious, its at least  
> irresponsible, in my opinion.

Well on the one hand if there's a patch available to fix a security
issue that I can get my hands on, I probably won't wait until the
official release from Mozilla to apply the fix. If I can get my hands
on it, that means umpteen many people can too, so I would see no point
in delaying even if it does draw attention to the vulnerability.

On the other hand if somehow I was privy to a vulnerability that
upstream wasn't, of course I would report it. I'm a good citizen in
this community as I'm sure nearly all of Debian is. But my point was
even if I didn't (eg, hit by a bus, had dental surgery, was mad at you
because you ran over my puppy or merely because I forgot) I couldn't
actually hide the fact that I did it effectively. It's all out in the
open, so I don't see how I could be accused of bad faith or
irresponsibility. 

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