Package: sympa
Version: 4.1.5-1
Severity: normal

Hello,

thanks for packaging sympa!

Problem is: sympa (and its components such as wwsympa) logs too much,
even with the lowest possible verbosity, and in a bad way.  We have
installed logcheck, and we have to consider ignoring sympa logs at all
because they have just too much noise.

I would expect normal activity to be logged only when the debug level is
set to a high verbosity, not all the time.

Some examples:

Mar 14 23:58:38 liste wwsympa[1765]: WWSympa started
Mar 15 00:01:27 liste wwsympa[2082]: [robot xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] [client 
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] [list xxxxxxxxxx] d_access_control
Mar 15 08:57:22 liste sympa[1258]: Parsing:
Mar 15 08:57:30 liste sympa[1258]: DISTRIBUTE xxxxx 
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx from xxxxxxxxxxxx accepted (8 seconds)
Mar 15 09:29:20 liste sympa[1258]: Deleting old file 
/var/spool/sympa/queuemod/rfn_0509426a4df7553cc56bddf9d8b98b39

Here is some logcheck ignore rules we're working on.  We've been working
on it for 2 weeks now, and more needs to be done: it's really
frustrating.  I wonder if anyone ever cares to check sympa logs at all
:(

----------------------------------------------------------
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ wwsympa\[[0-9]+\]: WWSympa started$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ wwsympa\[[0-9]+\]: \[robot [0-9a-z._-]+\] 
\[client [^] ]+\]( \[user [^] ]+\])?( \[list [^] ]+\])? 
(do_reject|do_subrequest|do_arc|do_arc_protect|do_login|do_subscribe|do_sigrequest|do_lists|do_help|do_logout|do_remindpasswd|do_d_read)\([^)]*\)[[:space:]]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ wwsympa\[[0-9]+\]: \[robot [0-9a-z._-]+\] 
\[client [^] ]+\]( \[user [^] ]+\])?( \[list [^] ]+\])? 
(d_access_control|do_pref|do_signoff|do_info|do_loginrequest)[[:space:]]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Deleting old 
(directory|file) /var/spool/sympa/(queuemod|queue/bad)/[^ ]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Deleting old file 
/var/spool/sympa/queue/bad/[^ ]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: DISTRIBUTE [0-9a-z.-]+ 
[0-9a-f]+ from [^ ]+ accepted \([0-9]+ seconds\)$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: SUB [0-9a-z.-]+ from [^ ]+, 
auth requested \([0-9]+ seconds\)$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Parsing:.*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: No command found in 
message[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Could not change multipart 
to singlepart[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Multipart message changed 
to singlepart[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Processing message for 
[0-9a-z.-]+ with priority [0-9]+, <[^ >]+>( \(added by [^ )]+\))?$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Processing web message for 
[^ ]+[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Message for [0-9a-z._-]+ 
from [^ ]+ accepted \([0-9]+ seconds, [0-9]+ sessions\), size=[0-9]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Message for [0-9a-z._-]+ 
from [^ ]+ rejected\(\) because sender not allowed[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Message for [^ ]+ 
(sent|forwarded)[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Sending digest to list 
[0-9a-z._-]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: No subscriber for sending 
digest in list [0-9a-z._-]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Digest of the list 
[0-9a-z._-]+ sent \([0-9]+ seconds\)$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Warning : no editor defined 
for list [0-9a-z._-]+, contacting owners$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Ignoring message which 
would cause a loop, sent by [^ ]+$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Moving bad file [^ ]+ to 
bad/[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Key [0-9a-f]+ for list [^ 
]+ from [^ ]+ sent to editors, [^ ]+[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: No such list [^ ]+[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Unknown list [^ ]+[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ sympa\[[0-9]+\]: Missing directory or config 
file for [^ ]+[ ]*$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ task_manager\[[0-9]+\]: 
eval_bouncers\([0-9a-z-]+\)$
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ bounced\[[0-9]+\]: error: no address found 
in message from [^ ]+ for list [a-z]+
^\w{3} [ :0-9]{11} [._[:alnum:]-]+ archived\[[0-9]+\]: Archiving [^ ]+ for list 
[^ ]+$
----------------------------------------------------------


Ciao,

Enrico


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Versions of packages sympa depends on:
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ii  debconf                     1.4.30.11    Debian configuration management sy
ii  exim [mail-transport-agent] 3.36-13      An MTA (Mail Transport Agent)
ii  libarchive-zip-perl         1.14-1       Module for manipulation of ZIP arc
ii  libc6                       2.3.2.ds1-20 GNU C Library: Shared libraries an
ii  libcgi-fast-perl            5.8.4-6      CGI::Fast Perl module
ii  libcrypt-ciphersaber-perl   0.61-4       Perl module implementing CipherSab
ii  libdbd-mysql-perl           2.9003-3     A Perl5 database interface to the 
ii  libdbi-perl                 1.46-6       Perl5 database interface by Tim Bu
ii  libfcgi-perl                0.67-1       FastCGI Perl module
ii  libio-stringy-perl          2.110-1      Perl5 modules for IO from scalars 
ii  libmailtools-perl           1.62-1       Manipulate email in perl programs
ii  libmd5-perl                 2.03-1       backwards-compatible wrapper for D
ii  libmime-perl                5.417-1      Perl5 modules for MIME-compliant m
ii  libmsgcat-perl              1.03-3       Locale::Msgcat perl module
ii  libnet-ldap-perl            0.3202-2     A Client interface to LDAP servers
ii  mhonarc                     2.6.10-1     Mail to HTML converter
ii  perl [libmime-base64-perl]  5.8.4-6      Larry Wall's Practical Extraction 
ii  perl-suid                   5.8.4-6      Runs setuid Perl scripts
ii  sysklogd [system-log-daemon 1.4.1-16     System Logging Daemon

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