(Note: Removing [EMAIL PROTECTED] from CC: as this is a bug control robot)
On Sun, Mar 27, 2005 at 07:38:30AM -0500, Alejandro López-Valencia wrote: > I've taken the freedom of corecting the CC'ed address from "maintainer > Please notice that the protocol for reporting bugs on any contributed > file to vim is to contact the file maintainer first, the vim developers > list (in case the maintainer listens there, most of us do) second and > the vim maintainer (at the address mentioned above) third. In general > bug reports to Linux distros that are not related to packaging problems > directly get lost in the cracks, unless it is some orphaned application > adopted by member projects (something I appreciate deeply in Debian, btw). Understood. Please also notice that when I originally reported the bug (after reviewing the Debian sources) the vim translation had not been updated for quite a long time. I submited the bug in Debian August 2003 (almost two years ago!) For the full bug history you might want to review http://bugs.debian.org/206782. Maybe the problem here really is that there wasn't (at the time) proper communication between the vim package maintainers and the vim developers. > As already said: current locale is way ahead of the curve. In fact I > have already contributed a version using the ORCA glossary as guideline, > same used by Javier. My last update to the file is dated January 10, > 2005. I guess it wasn't updated in the official vim distribution > <ftp://ftp.vim.org/pub/vim/messages/> yet. Well, I base mine of the Debian vim sources, it might be out of date. > I've taken to keeping copies of the latest working versions at > <http://dradul.tripod.com/vim/> so you may want to keep an eye there. > Anyway, I find some of your corrections valid and in fact a valuable > help in my work. Be assured that I am integrating them into my working > copies as I write this and will submit new copies to the Vim maintainer > and upload them to my web site. In fact I am very appreciative of the > fact that you, Javier, are the first person to report bugs on the > translation (of which I'm sure there are many). It is just that you > didn't follow protocol so this has taken more effort and tolled more > energy on you than necessary :-). I actually mailed the maintainer of the vim translation at the time (Eduardo F. Amatria <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>) when I submitted the bug fix to Debian. Unfortunately, it seems he did not do any thing. The fact is, I didn't know there was a new maintainer of the translation until yesterday (when Pierre Habouzit sent the 'wontfix' message). I was actuallly gladly surprise to see the things that bugged me most ('Recubrir' for 'Recover') already fixed in that. > As suggested above, I strongly disagree with forking the translation > without official adoption. This only brings about effort dispersion. > Now, if I suddenly dropped dead, or wasn't able or williing to keep > maintaining the translation, I already know that Javier could continue > the work. :-). I don't intend to fork the translation, my main goal is to have this integrated into vim proper. > Ahh! Those" faux amis" that always bite you back and hard. I appreciate > that you have taken the time to do editing work, it is really important > to have peer review when doing a translation. Sure, that's why we do peer reviews for most translations at debian-l10n-spanish. > I would say that I'd much rather have you send me a (context or unified) > diff file. You made the corrections on an older version of the file, so > I'll have to integrate the changes by hand anyway. I will do so shortly. > And as you mention other distros besides Debian..., I'd much rather > prefer to receive the bug reports and suggested changes directly so that > eveyone can have an homogeneous version of the message catalog. That's > why my address is in the file header. :-) Yes, that's why I CCed you, but given the past experience, I decided to go ahead and CC some other people just in case the translation update got lost (again) :-) Regards Javier
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