clone 413974 reassign -1 gnome-desktop-environment retitle -1 gnome + esound -> you need gstreamer0.10-esd thanks
On Fri, Mar 09, 2007 at 11:02:53AM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2007, Robert Millan [ackstorm] wrote: > > In a default install, gnome-media isn't using esound. It attempts to use > > OSS directly, which is precisely what you want to avoid (i.e. knowledge on > > the underlying implementation). > > The default is (or should be) to use autoaudiosink, which will try to > select the best output sink. Is this the default value you have seen? Yes. > autoaudiosink _will_ use esound if it's running (for example because > the relevant configuration is set in GNOME to start esound), but this > requires the esd plugin indeed. > > Please note that in the default install esound shouldn't be running > IIRC. gnome-desktop-environment depends on it. > Well, technically it would be useful to have it available, and I think > that the latest esound plugin in gstreamer will _not_ spawn a daemon if > it's not running (which is what we want); however, esound is not really > rocket quality, and I wouldn't want to advocate it by pulling the > elements; in fact, my personal preference goes to being able to remove > it entirely. I'm not in favour neither against that. But if we're going to provide it, using it as default is mandatory. At this time in release, I don't think it's safe to start this kind of transition, though. > I suppose that we should do one of these: > - stop pulling esound altogether (but this would break e.g. the sound > daemon option in GNOME), and suggest it only; alsa dmix should be > enough for most users Doesn't that break for OSS users ? > - pull esound _support_ completely, that is gstreamer0.10-esd, and not > only esound, but not turn it on by default I don't think you can safely rely on it not being started. Have all Debian packages been widely tested and are known not to start esd if it's not running already ? > - pull support for pulseaudio instead which is a compatible replacement > and is of good quality; we can't enable it by default either because > it's heavy on the CPU and not all users want a sound daemon when they > are happy with the capabilities of their sound card or of dmix Then again, what about OSS users ? Also, I think it's too late for this kind of change to make it in etch. > The only realistic option for etch is either to add a dep on > gstreamer0.10-esd (perhaps in the meta-gnome2 package which pulls > esound?), or to remove the dep on esound in meta-gnome2. I'm cloning this bug for gnome-desktop-environment. Jordi, can you please do that (and make sure it gets into etch)? -- Robert Millan ACK STORM, S.L. - http://www.ackstorm.es/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]