On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 12:26 +0200, Bart Samwel wrote: > Ross Boylan wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-08-19 at 01:15 +0200, Bart Samwel wrote: > >> Hi Ross, > >> > >>> This package depends on a number of hardware-specific packages > >>> (radeontool, toshset). Shouldn't those be "recommends" or "suggests" > >>> rather than "depends" relations? > >> No, not really. The trouble is that this package is installed by default > >> on laptops, and that it's supposed to make laptops "just work". If > >> anybody gets it into their heads to not install "recommends" packages, > >> then the package will no longer work as intended. And there's no proper > >> way for the package to complain. > >> > >> See also: #410918, #434566. > > Sorry I missed that: I was looking at acpid bug reports. Yes, this is > > basically the same issue. > > > > Does the anticipated (or has it happened?) transition of aptitude to > > install recommends by default change the need to make these "depends"? > > It may solve the problem for aptitude users, but then again, not > everybody uses aptitude. Also, we have an upstream package to deal with > (it's an Ubuntu package) that isn't robust against these things not > being installed. So it's going to be a lot of trouble fixing this up. I thought we were Ubuntu's upstream. It's good there's some cross-fertilization.
.... > Unfortunately ACPI does not usually provide power info on servers, that's too bad > while > on laptops you can read out the exact power draw. It would probably be > interesting to get yourself a Kill-A-Watt ($40) or a similar power > monitoring device so that you can see exactly what your changes are > doing. Such a device is very useful for finding out what the big power > suckers in the rest of your setup / house are as well. For instance, I > found that my digital cable TV box draws 18W *in standby mode*, about > half of what my complete server used when I still had it inside the > house. :-) I've heard most household appliances called "vampire devices" because they are always sucking power, even when off. I've also heard that it's relatively easy to design them to draw much less power, but no one was paying attention to it. Thanks for all the info. Ross -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
