thanks for the quick reply, output below.

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007, Steve Greenland wrote:

On 18-Dec-07, 12:06 (CST), Mark Whitis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
- there is a set-default-font command but no show-default-font command.
  There don't seem to be any emacs commands that I can use to show what
  font it is using so I can't try running that command then switching the
  font so I can read what it says.

It's a variable, accessed by ^H-v (show-variable). Which one I'm not
sure. Looking at fontset-alias-alist and face-new-frame-defaults may be
useful. For example, my face-new-frame-defaults ends with this snippet:

(default .
  [face "adobe-courier" normal 123 normal normal nil nil "#000000" "#ffffff" 
nil nil nil nil nil unspecified unspecified]))

face-new-frame-defaults's value is shown below.

Documentation:
List of global face definitions (for internal use only.)

Value:
((cscope-mouse-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (cscope-line-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (cscope-line-number-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (cscope-function-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (cscope-file-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (tooltip .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (isearch-lazy-highlight-face .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (isearch .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (trailing-whitespace .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (variable-pitch .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (fixed-pitch .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (secondary-selection .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (highlight .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (underline .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (bold-italic .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (italic .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (bold .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (mouse .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (cursor .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (border .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (menu .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (scroll-bar .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (fringe .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (region .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (tool-bar .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (header-line .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (mode-line .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified])
 (default .
[face unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified unspecified]))

BEFORE changing fonts (i.e. default):
fontset-alias-alist's value is
(("-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard" . "-Sony-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--16-120-100-100-C-80-ISO8859-1") ("-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard" . "fontset-standard")
 ("-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default" . "fontset-default"))

AFTER changing fonts (i.e. standard):
fontset-alias-alist's value is
(("-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard" . "-Sony-Fixed-Medium-R-Normal--16-120-100-100-C-80-ISO8859-1") ("-*-fixed-medium-r-normal-*-16-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-standard" . "fontset-standard")
 ("-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-fontset-default" . "fontset-default"))

But the font emacs complains about not being able to load is nimbus mono.
xlsfonts shows some -adobe-standard but no -fontset-standard (or anything -fontset-). I also don't see dejavu listed there.

fc-cache was segfaulting when installing the fontconfig package but installing the debug library fixed that.

These did not help:

655 echo '(set-default-font "-adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--18-180-75-75-m-110-iso8859-1")'
/root/.emacs
  661  echo '(set-default-font "standard")' >>/root/.emacs
665 echo '(set-default-font "-urw-nimbus mono l-regular-o-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1")' >>/root/.emacs 667 echo '(set-frame-font "-urw-nimbus mono l-regular-o-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1")' >>/root/.emacs
 >

As I said below, urw nimbus mono lfonts show up in xlsfonts, but no -16-, only -0-. In xfontsel, however, you have a choice of pxlsz = 0 or 17
and point size as 0 or 120.

Attribute EMACS ASKS FOR      Available
--------- --------------      ---------
pxlsz          16              0, 17
ptsz          125              0, 120

So it appears the font has changed from 12.5pt to 12pt or rescalable.

And these are the only -standard- fonts listed by xlsfonts.
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-bitstream charter-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-bold-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-i-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-bitstream-courier 10 pitch-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-m-0-adobe-standard
-urw-standard symbols l-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific
-urw-standard symbols l-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific
-urw-standard symbols l-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific
-urw-standard symbols l-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific
-urw-standard symbols l-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific
-urw-standard symbols l-regular-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-adobe-fontspecific

And, again, those fonts are availible in 0 and 12 point, not 18pt



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