On Thu, May 05, 2005 at 07:53:39PM +0200, Oliver Kiddle wrote:
> Greg KH wrote:
> 
> > > Reading various FAQs etc on the web, it seems clear that udev can work
> > > fine without hotplug.
> > 
> > Huh?  That is not true.  Please point me at those faqs.  The kernel
> > _MUST_ support hotplug for udev to work properly.
> 
> I'm talking about the hotplug scripts not CONFIG_HOTPLUG in the linux
> kernel. So in particular, I meant the Debian hotplug package. Sorry for
> not being clear.
> 
> See http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/udev-guide.xml
> 
> Quoting from that:
>    udev will install hotplug-base as one of it's dependencies. You do not
>    need to install hotplug unless you want your modules automatically
>    loaded when you plug devices in. hotplug also handles the automated
>    bringup of network devices and firmware downloading.
> 
> That's not the only FAQ I've seen. If you want, I can dig out more.

hotplug-base is NOT the hotplug/coldplug startup stuff.  You want that
file.  Why would you not?

> It is also annoying because hotplug depends on usbutils and my machine
> doesn't even have USB.

The gentoo hotplug-base package doesn't depend on it :)  Sounds like you
need to prod the debian people to also fix this.

thanks,

greg k-h


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