Here is some more, possibly useful information: Postings on kubuntu's lists complained of problems with dbus without root permissions. Kubuntu/ubuntu's approach to this is sudo only so becomes more problematic. On my Debian system:
1. Dbusd IS running, started on init. (Note: There is no udev rule and no /dev entry for dbus.) 2. However, two instances of dbus-launcher become stuck in memory when attempting to start kde4 as user, one by user and one by root! 3. Hal's udev rule calls for a certain socket. There is no such file on my system. The URI is NOT a /dev path. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]