On 2/23/08, Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Martin-Éric Racine kirjoitti:
>
>  > On 2/23/08, Teemu Likonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > >  Debian Etch's fi(basic) is the same as Debian Sid's fi(classic) as
>  > > the default Finnish keyboard has changed.
>  >
>  > And changing the default is precisely what's wrong. Making it the
>  > Kotoisuus map available for those who want it is OK, but changing the
>  > default is not.
>
>  Ok, this "bug" does not really break anything.

Yes, it does. Several deadkeys have gone away, because the default is
not the same.

> The patch is there and
>  it's in the upstream as well. With the new fi(kotoistus) keyboard we
>  can produce more different characters than with the old. The new
>  keyboard offers easier way to produce certain Finnish and international
>  punctuation marks which have previously been possible only through
>  Compose key sequences. More accented letters can also be produced
>  since there are more dead accent keys in the keyboard. Some rarely
>  needed characters fi(kotoistus) is missing can be produced through
>  Compose key sequences (superscript numbers for example).

Please spare us the Ministry of Education press release. I'm someone
who actually *needs* all those new letters and yet the keyboard map is
a complete mess, because the only thing it keeps in mind is doing
whatever the Swedes and the Norwegians decided to do with the common
subset of Scandics. For everything else, it breaks what little
compatibility there was was with other neighboring countries' keyboard
maps and it makes it *more*difficult* to get some glyphs that
fi(Classic) makes a breeze to get.

>  Therefore this bug report is essentially about objecting the change of
>  default. It is valid opinion of course but there is not any "breaking
>  of things" anywhere.

Yes, it is, because it removes previously available combinations.
People upgrading from Etch (or from pre-Hardy, on Ubuntu) will be left
wondering where those keys went. It *is* a bug.

>  welcome and been long-waited because now correct Finnish and
>  latin-based international text can be written more easily.

Do you actually have a use for all this or are you just repeating what
the nanny state said in its press release? The selected layout
actually makes writing all these languages *more*difficult*.

-- 
Martin-Éric Racine
http://q-funk.iki.fi

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