On 10 September 2008 at 17:35, Christian Hudon wrote:
| Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
| > Well, first off, congrats for finding it :)  Second, you didn't have too,
| > this is all documented in   help(Startup)   [ though I agree that finding
| > help is not always easy; OTOH doing   help.search("Rprofile")  would have
| > lead you there, along with some false positives ]
| >   
| Thanks for the pointers! I already know about help() and help.search(). 
| But the problem is, how is one supposed to know that 'Startup' is the 
| right help topic to request... And for help.search(Rprofile), in that 
| particular instance I was *searching* for the name of the file I needed 
| to edit for local customizations, so that wouldn't have worked very well 
| either. :-) (Yeah, I guess Startup is mentioned somewhere near the root 

Well r-help is full of similar calls for help, so by now Google is pretty
good at getting you to matching posts...

| Well... ok, in order of decreasing "feeling very strongly about":
| 
| 1. One thing I feel extremely strongly about is that as a sysadmin, 
| programs should never, ever require me to go edit something under /usr. 

Which is why you can locally follow the example and place the actual file in
/etc/R/ or /usr/local/etc/R or whereever you see fit and link it back to
$R_HOME/etc --- just follow the examples in that directory.

| Consequently, I feel strongly (in a corresponding amount) in this case 
| about having the r-core-base package provide symlinks from 
| /usr/lib/R/etc to /etc/R for every file and directory that I might want 
| to create or edit to configure R. (Hey, you're the one who mentioned 

Cool. So you're the one with the itch.  Can I look forward to receiving your
patches?  ;-)  Not sure how much time I'll have to test all this.

| 2. Once the symlinks are in /usr/lib/R/etc, I feel less strongly about 
| what files are in /etc/R. I'd still like you to consider installing 
| corresponding files in /etc/R, though, because from a 
| sysadmin-friendliness and discoverability point of view, I think it's 
| much better. You probably know R like the back of your hand, but let's 
| assume you know dhcp less well than R. Isn't it really nice to just 
| quickly browse around in /etc once you're installed dhcp and see at 
| least file with comments saying "here is the configuration file", so you 
| don't have to research that. (Not a great example, because the dhcp 

No, I buy that.  This is actually a rather useful idea.  So lemme make this
bug report about a wishlist for 'empty but for commented-examples' files

    /etc/R/Renviron.site
    /etc/R/Rprofile.site

| Thanks for considering this,

Pleasure!

Dirk

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