Hi Holger,
On Thu, Oct 23, 2008 at 12:12:08PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thursday 23 October 2008 10:51, Guido Günther wrote:
> > I discussed that with Matthias and didn't come to conclusion. Finally I
> > decided to go for an extra package. Basically for two reasons:
> >
> >  * I don't have to bother you folks with new versions (there's already a
> >    forth plugin underway)
> 
> I guess we would happily welcome you in the munin maintainer team :-D
Thanks, but I don't think I'd be of much help. I can sponsor Matthias
uploads should you be short on time though.

> >  * we don't need to add even more dependencies to munin-plugins-extra.
> >    Folks might not want to have python-libvirt which pulls in libvirt
> >    which pulls in xen libs on their system.
> 
> Currently we only use suggests for stuff the plugins need...
That's what I'm a bit afraid of, I want the plugins to just work without
the user having to figure out what else he needs. This becomes more
important the more packages get added to munin-plugins-extra.

> 
> >  * Backports: backporting munin-plugins-extra will become hard if there
> >    it has too man dependencies
> 
> See above :)
> 
> > So here's my suggestion: let's let the plugins stabilize a bit while
> > keeping them in an exrra source package and move them over to
> > munin-plugins-extra then (maybe shipping them as an extra binary
> > package, so people don't need install them).
> 
> Are these plugins even automatically configured? The vserver ones are not and 
> I doubt these are.
They don't need any configuration for most of the cases. I'm not
creating the symlinks though yet since I wanted to check back with you
about the best way to do it. I'd to this in the postinst:

 VER=$(dpkg-query -W -f='${Version}' munin-node)
 if [ "$VER" ]; then
     munin-node-configure --families=contrib --shell --since $VER > $TMPFILE || 
true
     ...
 fi

Cheers,
 -- Guido



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