Hi Christian

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 07:28:59AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
> Quoting Ola Lundqvist ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> 
> > Since when did "outdated and possibly misleading data" become a grave bug?
> 
> IMHO, because the package fails to achieve its main goal which is
> providing accurate information.
> 
> I agree that your mileage may vary, but I was really puzzled to see
> that simple fixes were not corrected, leading /me to conclude that the
> package is not actively maintained.
> 
> So, the main point of the bug is suggesting its removal from the
> archive for that reason.

I understand.

> > > This package, which is apparently very loosely maintained is currently
> > > providing outdated and possibly misleading data.
> > 
> > Where did you get the information that it is loosely maintained from?
> > I agree that it has not been updated for some time, but I have not had any
> > really important bugs on it either.
> 
> ISO-3166 changes since last upload and the only purpose of the package
> is giving information about it.
> 
> So, my conclusion was drawn: loosely maintained package.
> 
> Last changes in ISO-3166:
> - MD renamed to "Moldova"
> - Added Saint-barthélémy and Saint-Martin
> - several changes to official names of countries (Nepal, Bahrain,
> Moldova) but maybe countrycodes doesn't care about official names
> - Numeric code updated for Serbia
> 
> .../...

Ok, good to know.

> 
> > 
> > > The ISO-3166 codes have changed since last updates and no update for the
> > > package came to correct this. See also #492014 for misleading data.
> > 
> > Yes true. However as you also probably know we have had freeze for some time
> > and during that time no corrections for "normal" bugs are accepted. This 
> > could
> > partly be treated as documentation but I'm not sure it will be accepted.
> 
> They would, imho. We had some updates for iso-codes that were accepted
> so you can for sure ask for freeze exceptions.

Ok I see. I just tried to follow the normal procedures.

> > > I think that, as is, this package should not be shipped with lenny but
> > > either be completely dropped from  the archive is noones wants to maintain
> > > it, or modified to avoid using an internal reference list but rather
> > > iso-codes' XML data (and then have the package depend on iso-codes).
> > 
> > I do not agree. Countrycodes is packaged version of the "upstream" 
> > countrycodes
> > software. This is the only intention of this package.
> 
> Well, still, I'm not sure that this upstream is still alive. So,
> probably you deserve my apologies: the package is not loosely
> maintained, but upstream is...:-)

That is very true. :)

> > As you can see from popcon the countrycodes package is fairly popular
> > http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=countrycodes
> 
> Well, it was even installed on my system, for a reason I can't
> explain....and without me to be aware of this (I very well may have
> installed it very logn time ago, even before iso-codes came out)

Could it be so that it has been a part of base, essential or so previously?

> 
> > 
> > I can see that isoquery is more popular which could vote for a drop of 
> > countrycodes
> > but let us take that after Lenny in that case.
> 
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> Still, you can probably patch countrycodes to reflect the last changes
> in ISO-3166 and I think it would be accepte for lenny, even though
> this is code.

I'll try to accomplish that.

Best regards,

// Ola




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