Hi Daniel

>   Just to confirm: you filed this on a lenny machine, but you're talking
> about etch's aptitude, right?

The described behaviour is from both etchs and lennys aptitude.
There's no general difference in the behaviour, although lennys
aptitude seems to be a bit smarter.

I always try to upgrade dpkg, apt and aptitude as soon as possible.
The order of the commands ideally is:

  aptitude update
  aptitude safe-upgrade
  aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude
  aptitude safe-upgrade
  aptitude full-upgrade

so that the major work can be done by the new package tools.

But on one system were I had the most problems I could not install
the new aptitude just after the first 'aptitude safe-upgrade'.
I would have lost too many essential packages, like several apt
tools (apt-listchanges, apt-listbugs, ...), vim and others. So I
was forced to do some 'aptitude install package; aptitude
safe-upgrade' cycles with the old aptitude before I could install
the new one. Maybe this would have been easier with lennys
aptitude as it seems to be smarter in resolving dependencies. But
unfortunately it also is slower (the time values of 10 resp. 30
mins for an 'aptitude safe-upgrade' run in my previous mail are
from lennys aptitude).

The final 'aptitude full-upgrade' (with lennys aptitude) still
forced me to unnecessary remove a few packages (the only one I
remember now was tea) which were reinstallable without problems
after the full-upgrade. So the dependency resolver still has some
potential to get perfect :).

The upgrade of my laptop where I could install the new aptitude
early was smoother. But the job there was much easier as the
laptop only has half the number of packages installed (no NFS,
no servers, less development stuff).

The wish for the new aptitude option of course is for lennys
respectively squeezes aptitude (as I'm afraid it will not be
allowed to be added in stable).

Regards

Uwe




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