Graham,

Thanks, certainly wajig have many commands to learn, is huge, and
really too much more intuitive, I just used to manage the other
commands, even now I remember dselect ;-)

The answers below...

2009/5/2 Graham Williams <graham.willi...@togaware.com>:
> Thanks for the clear example Jaime. Very helpful. Comments below....
>
> Received Sat 02 May 2009  9:47am +1000 from Jaime Ochoa Malagón:
>> my test is the following:
>>
>> put this lines in your /etc/apt/sources.list
>
> wajig editsources
>
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ lenny main
>> deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ etch main
>
> wajig install dvdstyler=1:1.4-0.5
>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# apt-cache policy dvdstyler
>> dvdstyler:
>>   Installed: 1:1.4-0.5
>>   Candidate: 1:1.7.1-0.1
>>   Version table:
>>      1:1.7.1-0.1 0
>>         900 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages
>>  *** 1:1.4-0.5 0
>>         500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
>>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>>
>> the preferences should let dvdstyler to upgrade
>
> For me:
>
> wajig avail dvdstyler
>
> dvdstyler:
>  Installed: 1:1.4-0.5
>  Candidate: 1:1.7.1-0.1
>  Version table:
>     1:1.7.1-0.1 0
>        500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages
>  *** 1:1.4-0.5 0
>        500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
>        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>
>> wajig dailyupgrade attemps to upgrade dvdstyler and their depends I
>> only show the important package (the problem ahs grow since then for
>> an experimental package that I have...)
>>
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   dvdstyler-data libwxsvg0
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   dvdstyler
>>
>> I choose to hold dvdstyler
>>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# wajig hold dvdstyler
>> The following packages are on hold:
>> dvdstyler
>>
>> wajig dailyupgrade correctly hold the package but continue to attemps
>> to install depends
>>
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   dvdstyler-data libwxsvg0
>> The following packages have been kept back:
>>   dvdstyler
>
> Hmm, I don't suppose these two are dependencies of other packages that
> are getting upgraded? Doesn't look like it:
>
> $ wajig dependents dvdstyler-data
> d dvdstyler
>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# apt-cache policy dvdstyler
>> dvdstyler:
>>   Installed: 1:1.4-0.5
>>   Candidate: 1:1.7.1-0.1
>>   Version table:
>>      1:1.7.1-0.1 0
>>         900 http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny/main Packages
>>  *** 1:1.4-0.5 0
>>         500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org etch/main Packages
>>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
>>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# aptitude upgrade
>> W: The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
>> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>
> Okay, so the two packages don't get marked as requiring upgrade. So
> I'm guessing apt-get is not noticing that dvdstyler is not being
> upgraded, and so tried to install its new dependencies? Yet aptitude
> is doing the right thing.

Yeap!

>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# aptitude dist-upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
>> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# aptitude safe-upgrade
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
>> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>>
>> If I unhold the package:
>>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# aptitude upgrade
>> W: The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> Resolving dependencies...
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>>   dvdstyler-data{a} libwxsvg0{a}
>> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>>   mpgtx{u}
>> The following packages will be upgraded:
>>   dvdstyler
>> 1 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 1 to remove and 24 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B/1407kB of archives. After unpacking 2654kB will be used.
>>
>> If I mark the version to "F"orget in aptitude
>>
>> refugio:/home/chptma# aptitude upgrade
>> W: The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
>> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 25 not upgraded.
>> Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 0B will be used.
>> Reading package lists... Done
>> Building dependency tree
>> Reading state information... Done
>> Reading extended state information
>> Initializing package states... Done
>> Reading task descriptions... Done
>>
>> Hope all this helps.
>
> Yes it does. Thanks.  It does look like an apt-get
> issue. Interestingly, "wajig upgrade" does not seem to try to install
> dvdstyler-data (as one might expect given the difference between
> upgrade and dist-upgrade).
>

weird

> I'll reassign this to apt-get. I don't see it as a wajig issue as
> such.

Thanks, neither I now.

>
> Is it problematic that the other two packages get installed? At least
> dvdstyler is not being upgraded.

Right now the same issue applies for a couple of other packages in my
system and the depends have conflicts with the packages that should be
stay in the system...

>
> Regards,
> Graham
>

Saludos

>>
>> 2009/5/1 Graham Williams <graham.willi...@togaware.com>:
>> > Hi Jaime,
>> >
>> > Could you provide the sequence of commands or example that exhibits
>> > the bug behaviour and is repeatable. I've not been able to repeat
>> > this yet and without repeatability and a clear demonstration it is
>> > hard to fix.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Graham
>> >
>> > Received Sat 02 May 2009  5:33am +1000 from Jaime Ochoa Malagón:
>> >> Hi Graham,
>> >>
>> >> You are right, the bug is on apt-get.
>> >>
>> >> I didn know how work the hold feature in apt-get any way at this
>> >> moment didn't work...
>> >>
>> >> I don't know how to reasign the bug, did you mind to do this for me?
>> >>
>> >> Really I use aptitude that brings to me the feel of control and in
>> >> this case thats true, someone write about wajig and their good
>> >> features and I was testing it but this problem disapoint me and I
>> >> return to use aptitude, I feel confortable with wajig while that works
>> >> for me (not any more until this bug in apt-get is solved), thanks.
>> >>
>> >> 2009/4/30 Graham Williams <graham.willi...@togaware.com>
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Jaime,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks for the bug report.
>> >> >
>> >> > Underneath, the dailyupgrade command is simply doing:
>> >> >
>> >> >  apt-get --show-upgraded dist-upgrade
>> >> >
>> >> > so I would guess the same situation is there with apt-get.
>> >> >
>> >> > Do you think instead this might be a wajig specific problem?
>> >> >
>> >> > Otherwise could you reassign this to apt-get, perhaps as a wishlist?
>> >> >
>> >> > Or is there an option to apt-get to get the behaviour you want? That
>> >> > might be something we could fix wajig with.
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Graham
>> >> >
>> >> > Received Wed 18 Feb 2009  4:41pm +1100 from Jaime Ochoa Malagón:
>> >> > > Package: wajig
>> >> > > Version: 2.0.38
>> >> > > Severity: normal
>> >> > >
>> >> > > *** Please type your report below this line ***
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Some package have a bug and I request to downgrade it to the stable 
>> >> > > version...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > wajig dailyupgrade wants to upgrade it to my preferences (testing)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > I hold the package
>> >> > >
>> >> > > wajig dailyupgrade hold the stable package BUT pretends to install the
>> >> > > depends of the test version, thats is a bug...
>> >> > >
>> >> > > -- System Information:
>> >> > > Debian Release: 5.0
>> >> > >  APT prefers stable
>> >> > >  APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (550, 'unstable'), (500, 'oldstable')
>> >> > > Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
>> >> > > Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
>> >> > > Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Versions of packages wajig depends on:
>> >> > > ii  apt                         0.7.20.2     Advanced front-end for 
>> >> > > dpkg
>> >> > > ii  dselect                     1.14.25      Debian package 
>> >> > > management front-en
>> >> > > ii  python                      2.5.2-3      An interactive 
>> >> > > high-level object-o
>> >> > > ii  python-apt                  0.7.7.1+nmu1 Python interface to 
>> >> > > libapt-pkg
>> >> > > ii  python-central              0.6.8        register and build 
>> >> > > utility for Pyt
>> >> > >
>> >> > > wajig recommends no packages.
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Versions of packages wajig suggests:
>> >> > > ii  alien                   8.72             convert and install rpm 
>> >> > > and other
>> >> > > ii  apt-listbugs            0.0.94           Lists critical bugs 
>> >> > > before each ap
>> >> > > ii  apt-move                4.2.27-1+b4      Maintain Debian packages 
>> >> > > in a pack
>> >> > > ii  apt-show-versions       0.15             lists available package 
>> >> > > versions w
>> >> > > ii  debconf                 1.5.24           Debian configuration 
>> >> > > management sy
>> >> > > ii  deborphan               1.7.27           program that can find 
>> >> > > unused packa
>> >> > > ii  dpkg-repack             1.30             puts an unpacked .deb 
>> >> > > file back to
>> >> > > ii  fakeroot                1.11             Gives a fake root 
>> >> > > environment
>> >> > > ii  fping                   2.4b2-to-ipv6-15 sends ICMP ECHO_REQUEST 
>> >> > > packets to
>> >> > > pn  gkdebconf               <none>           (no description 
>> >> > > available)
>> >> > > pn  gnome-tasksel           <none>           (no description 
>> >> > > available)
>> >> > > pn  gnome-terminal          <none>           (no description 
>> >> > > available)
>> >> > > ii  locales                 2.7-18           GNU C Library: National 
>> >> > > Language (
>> >> > > pn  lynx                    <none>           (no description 
>> >> > > available)
>> >> > > ii  python-glade2           2.12.1-6         GTK+ bindings: Glade 
>> >> > > support
>> >> > > ii  python-gnome2           2.22.3-1         Python bindings for the 
>> >> > > GNOME desk
>> >> > > ii  python-gtk2             2.12.1-6         Python bindings for the 
>> >> > > GTK+ widge
>> >> > > ii  reportbug               3.48             reports bugs in the 
>> >> > > Debian distrib
>> >> > > ii  sudo                    1.6.9p17-2       Provide limited super 
>> >> > > user privile
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different
>> >> > > selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >                                        Carl Sagan (Contact)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >                                        Jaime Ochoa Malagón
>> >> > >                                        Arquitecto de Soluciones
>> >> > >                                        Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > > --
>> >> > > Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different
>> >> > > selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.
>> >> > >
>> >> > >                                       Carl Sagan (Contact)
>> >> > >
>> >> > >                                       Jaime Ochoa Malagón
>> >> > >                                       Arquitecto de Soluciones
>> >> > >                                       Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >> > >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different
>> >> selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.
>> >>
>> >> Carl Sagan (Contact)
>> >>
>> >> Jaime Ochoa Malagón
>> >> Arquitecto de Soluciones
>> >> Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different
>> selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.
>>
>>                                       Carl Sagan (Contact)
>>
>>                                       Jaime Ochoa Malagón
>>                                       Arquitecto de Soluciones
>>                                       Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774
>>
>



-- 
Perhaps the depth of love can be calibrated by the number of different
selves that are actively involved in a given relationship.

                                        Carl Sagan (Contact)

                                        Jaime Ochoa Malagón
                                        Arquitecto de Soluciones
                                        Cel: +52 (55) 1021 0774



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